Sid:     Shalom, Mishpochah, Shalom Family you know something I’m using the word family here and what we’re talking about this week is the destruction of the family in the most diabolical fashion.  And you realize that if our family is destroyed we’ll have no society.  I’m speaking to Dr. Michael Brown about his brand new book, “A Queer Thing Happened to America” on yesterday’s broadcast we were talking about how our schools are being so infiltrated with techs books and agenda’s that make homosexuality a normal acceptable lifestyle and Hollywood is not hurting that situation.  What’s Hollywood doing, Dr. Michael Brown?

Mike:  Oh, Hollywood is the great amazing tool for gay activism and let me, I just want to underscore with what these means in the schools and then explain how Hollywood plays right into this in an amazing way.  David Parker and his wife Tonya were upset when their first grader came home, their son Jacob came home with a diversity bag from school, including a book of who’s in a family and it had pictures of families with two Dads, two Moms etc. so he went to the school and said I want to be notified, he went to the school where his son was being taught and he said I want to be notified when this is going to be taught, if you are going to be talking about sexual issues, same sex marriages, these kinds of things, I want to be notified.  We’re talking about a six year old!  He was told no, we are going to do what we are going to do and same sex marriage is legal here, you got no leg to stand on.  Well, he fought it in court and the courts ruled and the Supreme Court refused to hear it and this is now national law Sid.  The courts ruled that it’s more important to teach diversity than to honor the requests of the parents and diversity of course is the code word, the code word that is used for gay activism.  So here’s what happened now in the media and film critic, and Orthodox Jew, Michael Medved points this out.  If Martian gathering evidence about American society simply by monitoring our television would certainly assume that there were more gay people in American than there are Evangelical Christians.  And in 1989, two Harvard trained gay social scientists Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madison and in their famous book “After the Ball” this is what they called for, this is 1989 Sid, “The Conversion of the average American’s emotions, mind, and will through a planned physiological attack in the form of propaganda feed to the nation via the media.”  And here’s an article that comes out, Time Magazine 2007 by Michael Kinsley called “The Quiet Gay Revolution says this; the debate of fourteen years ago about gays in the military seems almost quaint.  Kids grow up today with gay friends, gay parents, gay parents of friends, gay friends of parents, kids are also exposed constantly to an entertainment culture in which gays are not really merely accepted but in some ways dominant.  You rarely see a reality show without a gay cast member, while Rosie O’Donnell was a covenant free agent and Ellen DeGeneres is America’s sweet heart.

Sid:  So, how does this minority of minorities have such control, it must be supernatural, Mike?  

Mike:  There’s something demonic because the world loves its own, it’s playing into darkness, it’s legitimizing something of wrong and look, each of these people that I mentioned, Rosie O’Donnell, Ellen DeGeneres, there are all people Jesus loves, Jesus died for; He shed the same blood for heterosexual and for homosexual, but when you think of a population that’s roughly 3% what’s happened is others have a lied themselves with them.  They’ve said, this is about equality, this is about justice, and this is about intolerance; and who is it that’s standing in the way of it, those bigoted, those bigoted evangelicals!  So Michael Medved gave his quote I’ve expanded on it.  The Martian watching our TV and movies would also conclude that gay people with rare or no exception were incredibly nice, family oriented and considerate, while Evangelical Christians were all mean spirited, judgmental, dull, greedy, hypocritical.  I go through the book and I went on line, I research shows; I watch things on u-tube; because I’m not much of a TV watcher otherwise I read the actual scripts.  You’re talking about the will and grace generation where a certain face has been put on sexuality to take away any offensive to it.  To take away any parts of it where the behavior is offense or the consequences with sexually transmitted diseases or dangers just remove that and put only exclusively a nice face on it.  So whether its law and order shows, I’m talking about standard gay propaganda; one in ten is homosexual; you’re born that way; you can’t change; any attempts to change people come from religious bigotry that lead to suicide etc.  Boston legal, it doesn’t matter who it is; Barbara Walters interviewing someone; Sixty Minutes; Oprah born in the wrong body; it’s all out there.  And things are such now Sid, in Hollywood there was a bit of an uproar when “Brokeback Mountain” came out and now on major screens theaters all over America this Oscar Winning Movie has two men in sexual acts and most Christians hardly knew it happened or be so desensitized by other junk and trash that they’ve taken in that they don’t even care about it.  Well, a movie comes out recently, “Breakfast with Scott” do you hear a national uproar from Christians about it?  Of course not, who even thinks about it, two gay men who end up taken in a gay kid that is even more outwardly gay then they are, was like eleven years old.

Sid:   But, Mike my question to you is our Administration has already stated publically their position; Hollywood has shown their position; our school system is showing their position why even bother with this new book?  I mean it looks like it’s enviable it looks that way Mike.

Mike:  In the natural it’s too late, but with God all things are possible.  Sid, God spoke to me to write the book and He spoke to me not me alone but with His body to turn back the tide of homosexual activism.  I am convinced Sid to the core of my being by divine calling that we are about to see a cultural awakening, that we are about to see a moral and spiritual revolution based on love, based on the power of the Spirit.  Sid, I’m convinced just like in the Jesus People Movement when there was a massive harvest of hippies, rebels, radicals when I got saved as a heroin shooting teenager, I’m convinced were are going to see a massive outpouring of the love of God in the Homosexual Community and pastors are going to have to start to deal with people coming in.   They won’t know how to handle these issues.  We’ve got to get ready for an awakening that’s coming in the natural it seems impossible but that’s the gospel, the Messiah is born of a virgin, the forerunner of the Messiah is born to an old woman who can’t have children.  God works through impossible situations.  I am not looking for gradual cultural improvement through a better government.  I am looking for Resurrection; I am looking for awakening by the power of the gospel.  In the natural it’s totally impossible, it’s depressing, it’s hopeless, but with God we are about to see change and I believe simply by the purpose of God this book it going to help ignite an awakening in America. 

Sid:   I believe that too and that’s why I have you on my show.  But, I think it is, I mean it is amazing in America a book like yours that every Christian, everyone that says they believe in the name of Jesus, every person that has a child or a grandchild and wants to see that person have the same future that we were able to have; the same opportunities that we were able to have… this is going to be part of great awakening coming to America.  Mike tell me just briefly about why this is a threat to our religious liberties.

Mike:  Oh, Sid because we are the last bastion in there, there use to be two groups, there was the psychologists and there were the religious people.  The psychologists said homosexuality was a disorder, that had to be overcome, that was removed from the books in 1973.  The last thing that is standing against the flood of gay activism transforming our nation to the put that it will be consider a disorder to stand against it; that it will be criminal to stand against it; the last bastion, the last hope, the last light is the people of God, the church.  If the light within us is darkness, how great is the darkness?  Martin Luther King said, “The church is neither the master of the state nor the servant of the state, but the conscience of the state.”  We’re the salt and light if we don’t do this it’s over, we can forget about society, family, church as we know it.  It’s not hype, its reality.

Sid:   What about rewriting the Bible from a gay agenda?

Mike:  I own a library of books on this subject, because I dove in to do the research Sid.  I own books like, “Queer Bible” commentary and “Religion is a Queer Thing.”  I’m not just talking about people trying to say Jonathan and David were lovers or Jesus and John were lovers or Mary and Martha were lovers, I mean it goes on and on, I’m talking about blasphemous stuff by major scholars in the gay and lesbian movement, that’s I’ve got a whole…

Sid:   When will someone be like David when he when up against Goliath?  Is there not a cause?  I mean, can’t you hear the Spirit of God saying that your children, your grandchildren are at stake?  I would like people that have bible studies to take your brand new book Mike and make it a Bible study.  Let’s get knowledgeable on …we’ve got the media giving us one side and it’s out of the pit of hell, we have Administration lining up with them, we have Hollywood lining up with them, someone somewhere has to be like David.

Mike:  Sid, a pastor came up to me, I was in rural North Carolina; I had been invited in by some pastors to talk about this issue.  Afterwards they began to come up to me privately to tell me what was happening.  One pastor told me this, this is rural North Carolina 2010,  he said “my daughter goes to a High School here in the area, I didn’t want to mention the name publically, one of her good friends was on the high school girls softball team, she quit the softball team because she was the only non lesbian on the team; rural North Carolina.  A friend of a friend moved from Pace, Florida to Orlando, Florida where she began to teach seventh grade kids, she was a seventh grade school teacher, she couldn’t take it after one year because half of the girls in her seventh grade class identified as Lesbian.  This is reality, Sid I’ve talked about these things in public, eye opening, mind boggling things happening in front of her eyes and then I’ve had teachers pull me over afterwards and say you have no idea what’s happening.  I’m talking about this stuff we are talking about here.  Detailed documented in my …

Sid:   Mike, we out of time.

Sid:  My guest “red hot” is almost an understatement for Todd White; Todd has this special anointing of words of knowledge to talk to people in the street to demonstrate the kingdom of God.  Todd, out of curiosity, is it easier to get a Christian that believes in healing that has been in the church for thirty years that has never experienced the healing themselves and seen very little, is it difficult to get someone like that healed or is it easier to get a nonbeliever in the street healed?

Todd:  Well, I’m really glad that you asked that.  One of the things that is so important is destroying lives, because strongholds are produce actually where someone has preached from a pulpit to a Christian that has been in the church for thirty years, where they have preached out of personal experience that didn’t line up with what the Word of God says.  So now what they do is preach that and it is counter to what the Word says at the cost of God’s Word because they have to explain something that has happened in their life.  So now you encounter that person out there on the street or you encounter that person at Wal-Mart, because it’s not just street evangelism.  This is a kingdom lifestyle of twenty-four seven living for Him and not for me because I have laid my life down.  So this thing is so amazing that, when I approach somebody, no matter what they believe, no matter what they’ve been taught, that has nothing to do with what I believe as the representative of God.  So what I believe will trump their unbelief because it says there signs will follow those that believe.  It doesn’t say these signs will follow those being prayed for; it doesn’t matter where a person is it matters where I am, because I’m the ambassador, I’m the representative.  So when I pray for somebody I don’t see any worse case scenario whether they are praying for somebody that’s been in the church, all I need to do is get my hands on them.  And sometimes that’s not even necessary.  But I don’t see any more resistance as far as healing comes for an unbeliever and somebody that’s been raised in religion for forty-five years.

Sid:  Tell me some of your favorite experiences. 

Todd:  Wow, okay well let me just real quick just destroy one lie.  We’ve been taught that when you pray for somebody you have to be careful, you don’t want to lay hands on somebody to hastily, and that’s in Timothy and it talks about that, but when it talks about it in Timothy it talks about it as far as far as ordination of people into leadership and deaconship.  It talks about ordaining people into office, it has nothing to do with praying for people that have…that are new age or witches or occult; it doesn’t matter.

Sid:  So you have no problem with laying hands on someone know is a new ager?

Todd:  Oh, I love it, because they’ll see God.  I love that, that’s so good.

Sid:  Now, do most people feel the presence of God when you lay hands on them and pray for them?

Todd:  Well sure! 

Sid:  Ha ha.  I like the way you say that. 

Todd:  Yeah, cause that’s all…see I don’t have, my motivation is love and so if that’s Jesus’ motivation and people felt the presence of God when Jesus touched them then the same thing should happen through me.  So what I do is, I’m the representative; I’ll just give you an example of what I’m talking about.  When we went to Wal-Mart two years ago, my wife and I did and we were going in and these two people walked by the front of the truck or the front of the vehicle and they were garbed out in black and the guy had tattoos down both sides of his cheeks, down his eyes, the whole way down them.  My wife says, “Oh my goodness.”  And I said, “Oh man, God is so going to, so going to land on them, this is going to be so good.”  So we went in, I didn’t chase them down or anything, but I know that God will line it up because he wants to touch them.  So I walked down the aisle in Wal-Mart and they’re at the end of the aisle so I go up to these two people and I said “Hey, how you doing today?”  And the lady looks at me kind a like drops her chin down and looks with her eyes up and she goes, “fine.”  And I said wow, it doesn’t sound like fine, it sounds like you are kinda upset.  She said, “No I’m fine, what do you want?”  I said, actually I said, I was just coming down here because I’m hearing in my heart that you have a back issue.  And she said, “Yeah, so what?” I said, “Well, can I tell you what it is?”  She goes, “Go ahead,” and she crossed her arms.  And I said to her, “Well you’ve got like a herniated disk and you’ve this sciatic stuff down your leg and its making your foot numb.”  She said, “Yeah, it’s hereditary.”  And I said, “I know and actually people were telling you that because your father had it, that’s why you have it.  She goes, “That’s right.”  I said, “Look since I told you about your back, I say you let me pray for you, she goes “Honey, we don’t believe in the same thing.”  I said, “Really, I’m not concerned about what you believe in, I said that doesn’t a matter anything, right now.  I said my thing is let me pray for you.  She goes “Well, I don’t believe in that,” I said, “Good, then let me pray for you, you have nothing to lose.”  She said, “Okay.”  So I prayed for her and the presence of God swept through her and the leg and her back got on fire and her toes immediately denumbed right there.  She goes, “I don’t think you understand.” I said, I do God just healed you.  She goes, “You don’t get it we don’t believe the same thing.”  I said, “Cool what do you believe?” She said, “I’m a satanic high priest.” A priestess. I said, “Awesome, I know a high priest too and He so loves you, you are amazing.”  And she is so freaked out that she starts telling me how she went to seminary school, she took theology and she was crushed and hurt by people that were teaching in the seminary and that she turned from that and she pressed into darkness.  Because there is a real power of darkness, but the real power of darkness is nothing compared to the kingdom of light that we’ve been translated into?  So all she needs is a God experience to be completely loved on by God Himself, she looks at her friend after I shared the kingdom with her and she had tears in her eyes.  She said, I told you Jesus was a cool dude.  Now, she’s a satanic high priestess for like twelve years and God landed on her and healed her and loved on her, because he loved her because she’s had the gospel misrepresented and since people have been taught that God’s in control all kinds of stuff is happening and it’s not God behind it.  God can make lemonade out of any lemons but it is not God that gave you the lemon.

Sid:  Do you know what that reminds me of, there are many Jewish people and their elderly now that survived Hitler’s holocaust and many of them, forget Jesus, they’ve become atheists because they say “How could a loving God have allowed something like this to happen?”  What would you say to them?

Todd:  I would say this, I would say in John 10:10 it is very clear where it talks about the description of the enemy and the description of God.  Where it says the thief comes but to steal, to kill and to destroy and Jesus said, but I have come to give them life and that they may have it more abundantly.  And that abundant word means violently excessive life.  Now we know that satan can’t come up into heaven to steal, kill, and destroy so it’s talking about present tense in this life.  And we know we will have abundant life when we get to heaven, but Jesus is talking about abundant life now.  So now in my left hand I have death, loss and destruction and in my right hand I have abundant life and I would simply ask them if you were to put in one of these hands what you went through would it be stealing, killing and destroying or would it be the abundant life?

Sid:  Well, no brainer it’s stealing, killing and destroying.

Todd:  Simple, the problem is is that we’ve been taught that well, God’s in control, God’s in control.  And in Psalms 115 verse 16 it says, “The heaven, even the heavens are Lord’s but the earth He did give to the children of men.  If God was in control he wouldn’t have given it to the children of men.  He wouldn’t have told us to be stewards over it, he wouldn’t have given authority to man.  If God was in control you wouldn’t have the power to speak both life and death from your tongue.  But because you have free will, you can choose to speak death and mark somebody for a loss or you can choose to speak life and mark somebody and God will know who to the write the check to by the words of encouragement that no corrupt words come from out of your mouth only that were used to encourage and edify and build up those who hear you.  So God’s not in control, he actually given it to us.  We’ve preached that and if God was in control, why would I need faith?  Why would I need to pray?  For whatever is to be will be.  And if it’s impossible to please God without faith, that’s just contradictory to what God said, He’s not in control.  But that is preached and its created a passive and a complaisant church that sits back and it gets run over by the enemy whose is death, loss and destruction while God takes the rap and satan slivers away like the snake in the grass.  In the garden he was cursed to crawl on his belly and in the book of revelation he’s a seven headed monster, a dragon and we’ve created that we’ve allowed him to be that big.  If the highest part of hell is beneath the lowest part of us, I think we have to realize who we are and if you want to send a message to satan, write it on the sole of your shoe.

Sid:  Tell me about the man that could not bend his leg for over thirty years because he had two steel rods.

Todd:  Yeah, of that was a really neat one too.  I was in a church in Virginia and I was getting ready to preach a service and it was a first day that I was there.  The pastor had just been introduced to me and I hadn’t really established a relationship before that point and I have the lapel mike on and he’s about ready to introduce me and the Holy Spirit says, “Run outside.”  So I ran down the side of the church, I ran out the front door and the pastor has left there and my mike is on and now I’m running down the side walk and I see a homeless guy that’s coming across the street in a wheelchair.  So I went up to him and said you’re the reason why I’m coming out here right now.  He said, “Why?”  I said, “Because you are in a wheelchair,” I said and God wants to get you out of there.”  He said, “Well I don’t believe in that.”  I said, “That’s okay man, I’m not asking you to believe in that right now.”  I said “Look,” I said “What’s going on what happened?”  He said, “In 1976 I fell off of a bridge and I severely broke my leg.”  And what happened was that they put two steel rods from his chin on each side of his leg up the sides of the knee all the way up to the femur and they put screws in the whole way down.  So his leg is literally frozen out there with steel rods and it’s calcified because it’s been frozen in that place since 1976.  I said man, “I got to pray for your leg; he goes, “Well, I just fell two days ago and broke these ribs.”  I said, “Are you in pain.”  He said, “Awe, it’s terrible.”  I said, “Come on man I’m going to pray for you.”  And I went to put my hand inside his jacket and he said, “Don’t touch me,” and I had to even if he hit me I have to because I have to give him the encounter with God that God sent me out there for. 

Sid:  Tomorrow we’ll find out what happened in this encounter.

Sid: My guest had supernatural peace poured into him in Africa. I mean, a peace that is so strong, so tangible you can’t worry even if you try. This peace is so powerful it overcomes every negative circumstance. Now he’s pouring this peace into other people. Next on this edition of It’s Supernatural.

Can ancient secrets of the supernatural be rediscovered? Do angels exist? Is there life after death? Are healing miracles real? Can you get supernatural help from another dimension? Has the future been written in advance? Sid Roth has spent 30 years researching the strange world of the supernatural. Join Sid on this edition of It’s Supernatural.

Sid: Hello. Sid Roth. Welcome to my world where it’s naturally supernatural. I love the rarified air of Heaven. Now I have, to my knowledge, I’ve never said this at the introduction of a show. But I have been looking so forward to interviewing my guest, David Martin, because you see, David received two impartations from God that I believe, as a mentor of you in the End Times, you must, absolutely must receive. But David, let’s start out with, in 2005, you received three prophetic words. Tell me about them.

David: I did. Sid, I was in the midst of a 17-week revival in Connecticut, and as I was driving back one night to the church, about midnight, God really spoke very strongly to me. I hear many things from the Lord, but these were like three imperative words. And what He said is bad times were coming. This was four months before Katrina happened, and literally I saw Katrina. I saw it. And if I saw correctly, Katrina was nothing. What really impressed upon me when that happened is God saying to me this is a wake-up call. So that was word number one. Number two, He said to me His people were not taking His Word serious. We’re kind of picking and choosing the parts we like and of course we all like prosperity and those kind of things. But God said we need to look at the totality of His Word, and the one thing specific that He spoke to me of significance was the sowing and reaping, that as we sow we will reap. God says I’m not mocked in this.

Sid: Now most people hear of sowing and reaping with money, but that means everything.

David: Every thought.

Sid: Every thought.

David: Every thought. Not just heir deeds, but those thoughts that we think on those things that we’re meditating on. And that’s where He really began to teach me about the importance of meditating the Word, because those words that we’re thinking, particularly those that stir up emotion inside of us, were creating good or bad, but they were creating.

Sid: What was the next word?

David: The third word that we were so caught up in our self, the things of this world, things that were important to us personally, and you know, what causes us to be selfish or things that are just important to us.

Sid: It’s almost the spirit of this age that we’re living in right now.

David: Absolutely.

Sid: So we have to fight the spirit of this age.

David: I believe God is helping us to make right decisions right now.

Sid: Okay. When are these horrific times going to come on America?

David: Well I believe we’re already seeing them. I mean, other peoples in the world, whether it’s Indonesia or Haiti, the Bible says in the last days this would be the case, you know, wars, rumors of wars, earthquakes, famines. But I believe very earnestly God spoke that in 2005. But then in, two years ago, God said to me, “You have two years to prepare for what’s coming,” which is where we are right now.

Sid: What is coming?

David: Well I think more bad. I mean, it’s going to cover every area, Sid. It’s going to be economic. It’s going be geophysical, financial, economic, I think even in the church, in the religious world. We’re going to see a lot of shaking.

Sid: People losing their ministries, people being caught in sin.

David: The sin is going to find you out.

Sid: But you know what? It’s to the advantage to be found out. How would you like to find out about the sin after you die and you go to the Day of Judgment? I mean, now is the time to get rid of that sin because of the precious word of the Messiah, of Yeshua. David, I am excited about these two anointings you’ve received. Tell me about the first one, the circumstances.

David: Well the circumstance, it’s a really long story and trying to make it short is difficult. But essentially, there was a revival that went through East Central Africa in the ’30s. It was called the Shining One movement. And the people of that movement literally heard about this in the ’90s when I was in their refugee camps in Rwanda. But the people of that day shined, they literally radiated the Glory of God.

Sid: Listen, last night at dinner David was shining. Tell me about this. I mean, non-believers, people walked up to you, like last night I saw this, said you are literally shining.

David: I hear it all the time. It’s just a common thing that I hear. But to me what’s more important is that all believers, I mean, this is what we’re called to do. We’re called to radiate.

Sid: I’ve always felt that in the latter times that when we walk in holiness and there’s only room for the Glory of God, it’s got to be released, and of course we’re going to be shining. These people walked in such holiness. They would repent of little sins that most people here in America wouldn’t even think anything of. Explain that.

David: Well when I was there in 1998, through a unique series of circumstances, which is very supernatural in itself, in the midst of a pastor’s conference, God poured out His spirit and 250 pastors all got baptized from the Holy Ghost. I mean, we’re talking non-charismatic people getting baptized in the Holy Ghost, three hours of glory. God said to me, “Go to the birthplace of that revival.” And while I was there, the next day, walked into the chapel where this revival happened 30-some years earlier, and while I’m in the chapel, a man named Enoch walked in

Sid: Kind of, that’s an interesting coincidence, Enoch

David: Well Enoch just happened to live a long time. He was one of the founders of that story where in this chapel, this revival started in this chapel, spread all over East Central Africa. But because God had told me in 1979 to study miracles, to prepare for the end, if you will, to teach people how to walk in the miraculous for these days. And the one miracle, Sid, that God really directed me to, to study, was transfiguration. I had been studying this for 30 years. Now here, I’m face to face with a man that walked in transfigured anointing, and I’m saying, tell me about it. And as he explained it to me, he said, “David, this anointing with this move of God really wasn’t about shining. It was about holiness” And the presence of God was so strong that people literally could not live with any kind of sin. They come into the altar everyday repenting, as you said, of the smallest little thing, bad thought, bad action. But he said, what happened over the course of time is they started shining.

Sid: Not only did David receive the shining light anointing from one of the people that were connected with this move in the ’30s, but he received an anointing that I don’t believe you’ll survive in the last days unless you have it. And I’ve experienced it, too. Don’t go away we’ll be right back.

Sid:  We want everyone everywhere to hear God to have such intimacy with the Holy Spirit.  Now what I love about my guest this week, Jim Hockaday is God has given him the gift of empowering you to release what God’s already put within you.  When you hear his teaching and the presence of God comes on you with this teaching, you’ll develop such intimacy with God.  For instance, Jim tell me about the time that you told the lady that had a tumor to go into the ladies room and put water on the tumor. How did you come up with that?

Jim:  Well, I guess it’s, you could say through a process of learning to work with the Holy Ghost and open my heart up to possibilities. In other words, not to be so confined in the way that I’ve always done it.  I just go into every service just wide open.  I’ve looked at this lady and she had a tumor on her breast that was the size of probably, and she’s the one that made the reference to it, and she said I have a tumor on my breast that’s the size of a grapefruit.  And without batting an eye I said well it will just disappear, you go back to ladies room right now, take someone with you and I said go ahead and put water on that and you’ll see it disappear before your eyes.  Well she did it and she came back in, you didn’t need to ask her if it happened.  She was like a freight train going through a tunnel just rejoicing at the top of her lungs, dancing and shouting.  In fact, the whole place took off dancing and shouting and running all over the room over her testimony.  She came back and it was completely well.

Sid:  Jim, what if she had come back and it wasn’t.  What would you have said?

Jim:  Well, I’ve had some that have happened that way.  I looked at a lady and I told her I said “Now you’ll go out, you won’t go three times without having that tumor disappear.  Do you understand what I said?  She said, yes Sir.  I said go out right now this is your first time.  She went out the first time.  She came back in and she said, well its half the size.  Well good, it’s going the right direction.  Well, I went ahead and I started preaching again, we were preaching on the God kind of faith, in other words, the faith that doesn’t fail.  And I looked at her after about ten minutes I said go and I said now is your second time.  Do you remember what I said, she said, yes I do.  I won’t go out three times or two more times without it being gone.  I said that’s right.  She came back in and she said, well it’s real hot where that’s at but it’s about the same size the size of a…half the size.  I said well, that’s great, that’s good it’s hot that means it’s working.  I said so you remember what I said didn’t you, she said yes.  So I got to the point in my message, I said well now’s the third time.  Go out and see the rest of what we said is so.  She went out and she came back in now this was what happened.  I saw her when she came back in she stood at the back door.  She didn’t come back in like rejoicing, running up to the front.  So I knew she was going to try to tell me that it was still there.  So she started walking down and she looked at me and said well, it is still there half the size.  And I walked off the platform got about two inches away from her nose eye to eye, and said I’m sorry I said if it would disappear that’s what happened.  She said well, I’m just telling you what it is.  She said that its still there.  I said that it would disappear that’s what happened.  She said yea, but I went up there and its half the size but I said it would disappear and that’s what happened.  And she looked at me and got mad.  And said well, all right then, it disappeared.  I said good, I’m glad that you’re in agreement check it right now.  She did and it was gone.

Sid:  There is such a depth of understanding  the truth of God’s Word that you can’t hear enough about people that have walked in this and that’s why I’m making this six CD Seminar available to you, “How to develop intimacy with the Holy Spirit.”  As far as I’m concerned Jim this is the course correction that those that understand the truth have to get to with intimacy with God.  It’s going to make all the difference in them walking in the promises.  Talk a little bit because I love to hear you teach about intimacy with God.  Talk a little bit about that.

Jim:  Well, I’ll make it real real simple here and you know it’s as simple as how well we begin to develop an awareness of His presence.  And so, you and I are right now on a name to name basis and were talking with one and other and I’m very aware that you’re on the other end of this phone and were having this interview.  But there’s a whole lot of people out there that are listening their hearing our voices just as well as you and I are hearing our voices but their there but as included as you and I because we’re not calling them calling them by name.  Now, if I said Honey to my wife, Erin, hey babe I love you, just want to let you know I’m talking to you right now on the air.  Now, if she were listening, it would draw her into the conversation, would it not? 

Sid:  Of course.

Jim:  Sure, because I made it personal.  Philemon verse six says that the communication of our faith would become effectual by the acknowledgement of every good thing which is in you in Christ.  Intimacy with the Holy Ghost begins when you begin to acknowledge His indwelling presence and when you begin to acknowledge Him he is drawn into your world.  He’s there, but you know that there are a lot of things that are around us all the time and we are not aware of it, we don’t recognize it.  Take Gideon for example, the Lord appeared to him in a vision and a man stood there that was the Angel of the Lord and Gideon didn’t even recognize Him but when he did; what happened?  Oh I’ve seen the Lord today.  Well, yes.  God is with us right now in the person of the Holy Spirit because of our Lord Jesus and when you begin to acknowledge His presence, immediately He’ll begin to work with you.  He was sent by the Father, Jesus said as your advantage in life.  In other words, you could say it like this and sum it all up.  In the same way that the disciples had such an amazing time walking with Jesus for three and half years that is exactly what the relationship is like for us to walk with the Holy Spirit.  To have that kind of closeness, awareness and to have that kind of presence in our life.

Sid:  Now, when you talk about acknowledging God’s presence your saying talking about what the Word of God says. 

Jim:  Talking about what the Word of God says, revealing the scripture, it comes to life.  And also…

Sid:  Well, give me an example, do it right now.

Jim:  Well, I would start out even right now and I would just begin to say, Father, I just thank you so much that you did send the Holy Spirit and He does live in my heart and because of my Lord and Savior right now, I am one with God in Spirit, inseparable.  Holy Spirit your there right now and I know that you’ve got things to share with me.  And so I just open up my heart because I know that you’re speaking and then He begins to speak.  And so right now there is somebody that has had a lump in the throat that seems like it’s difficult to swallow and even when you do it’s painful.  But that lump disappears right now in the wonderful precious Name of Jesus because the Holy Ghost is revealing that and the anointing is beginning to flow and it’s no different in life.  As you walk with Him, there’s times when He’ll speak and there’s other time that you’ll just recognize that He’s there.  But all of it gives you confidence and boldness to approach life according to the word and know that you’re an overcomer.

Sid:  Now speaking of boldness, now tell me about that boy that had polio that his leg straightened out before everyone watching.

Jim:  Yea, it was pretty wild, he had polio and had one leg that was drawn up as though it was almost in a crossed position while the other leg was normal and hanging down and it was drawn up and small and skinny, and not the same length.  And when we prayed for him, all of a sudden his leg shot out.  Now the Pastor’s wife was sitting right next to him and she was given to many visions and she said, when you walked over a large angel walked up and when you prayed that angel grabbed that boy’s leg and jerked it out and it became completely normal and whole.

Sid:    That’s the type of thing that’s about ready to be released and I believe as people develop their intimacy with the Holy Spirit it’s going to be released in their life.  I mean that what you just described is sensational, but it’s also normal according to the promises of the Word of God. 

Jim:  Yes Sir.  In fact and I’ll make this small little observation, Jesus said that He was going to send a helper to help us.  Now, here’s what we’ve done.  We’ve made the Holy Ghost the doer.  Were twitteling our thumps waiting on God to do something and were assuming the position of the helper.  Lord, if you’ll do something, I’ll help.  But the Bible declares and Jesus has said it himself in Matthew 7 and James reiterated this same principle throughout his epistle that we are the doers of the word.  The Holy Ghost is the helper and when someone has recognition of God and their aware of His presence.  They become bold to become a doer of the word.  And when they step out to do that’s when the miraculous happens because the Holy Ghost will help.

Sid:  Consider yourself challenged; by the way I have heard a Word of Knowledge that someone’s back was healed.  In fact their entire spine was straightened out in Jesus Name.  Are you catching anything else Jim?

Jim:  Well, I just want to make reference to any type of stomach disorder.  You can just be confident that this afternoon if you’ll take this that’s been spoken, go get yourself something to eat.  The Spirit of the Lord will come upon you when you put that first bite in your mouth and you’ll see that your stomach has been healed.

Sid:   Okay, this six CD seminar on “How to develop intimacy with the Holy Spirit.” 
Same anointing of healing right now.