SID: Unbelievable, I mean Randy Clark goes to this little store front church in Toronto Canada and in the next few years 3 million people go through, was it 3 million that went through?

RANDY: Just in the 1st few years.

SID: In the first few years? This little storefront church?

RANDY: From all over the world.

SID: I want you to pick one person that came there that you prayed for that you received and impartation, that’s why I’m so excited about your book, There Must be More, because this book you actually pray for impartations, you got your greatest impartations from just teaching, understanding how these things operate. Do you wish that you had this information when you started?

RANDY: It would have been invaluable.

SID: I wish I had this information when I started. So tell me about one of my favorite people, you know I have a lot of favorite people that you prayed for and the whole world turned upside down in a good way. Tell us about Heidi and Roland Baker, tell me about Heidi Baker.

RANDY: Well I was preaching a sermon on impartation.

SID: Just like in here.

RANDY: It’s in there. The basis of it. And she can’t wait till it’s over, she runs in the middle of it to the front and when I see her on her knees crying I actually had a strong impression from the Lord God and I said Heidi God wants to know if you want the nation of Mozambique and she said yes. Now she’s a burned out missionary and that’s a ridiculous question to ask and it was ridiculous that she would say yes but then I heard myself say God is going to give you the nation of Mozambique and you’ll se the blind see, the deaf here, the lame walk and the dead will be raised.

SID: Now wait a second, there’s a lot of responsibility you saying something like that. Doesn’t, don’t you kind of tremble of maybe it’s just my ideas? Come on, between you and me.

RANDY: That was so strong that you say it before you think about the consequences of it.

SID: I see, you had a mind bypass.

RANDY: It really was. You know Heidi and I have laughed about it. We’re both crazy because it’s so illogical that that would ever happen from a little burned out missionary with a small little church.

SID: How many churches had she started since in Mozambique?

RANDY: Seven. She and her husband, well one in Mozambique, seven in her lifetime.

SID: Let’s fast forward right now. How many churches has she started now?

RANDY: Over 7,000.

SID: Did you say 7000? In how long a period of time?

RANDY: Seven years, and approximately 1,000,000 people have come to the Lord through Jesus Christ through there.

SID: Through impartation through this one person?

RANDY: Well it multiplied. What happened to her lasted 7 days and 7 nights and the power of God hit her, heat, electricity and energy and she heard the voice of God and went into visions and everything. But then when she went back to Mozambique she gathered 12 men together and God said now everything Randy prophesied to you, he prophesied to them and she spoke to them the same words and the Word of God came on to them too. And then they went out and that was the instant multiplication and it’s continuing, they lay hands on people and pray for them and they begin to move in gifts.

SID: Now she, how many orphans does she have?

RANDY: There’s over 1000 in the 2 orphanages but every church they start are to have an orphanage and the pastor is to adopt children into his own personal family, in every church.

SID: Now listen this is not just religion that you may be used to, there’s Judaism, Christianity, Islam, this is the same thing we read about in the new covenant, that Jesus did, the identical things. For instance, any dead people coming back to life under Heidi’s ministry of the 12 people she prayed for?

RANDY: Through their ministry at this point, I think 54 now, most of them in the Muslim territories.

SID: Now of these 54 were they dead for a few seconds or a few minutes?

RANDY: You know I forgot Sid exactly what it is but they have to be dead for several hours before they’ll count it and they have to live for a year after they’ve been raised before they’ll count it. And I’ve interviewed them. One of my hobbies is to interview people who raise the dead.

SID: Did you ever talk to any that had some sort of experience when they died? And talked about it. I mean as far as seeing Jesus or something like that.

RANDY: I can’t think right now.

SID: That’s what I want to know. What did you see? I mean everyone is going to die. You can’t avoid it. So I’d like to know what these people have seen. Wouldn’t you? Ok.

RANDY: I don’t remember the stories of that because I’m usually asking questions to the people that are praying for them because I want to see this begin to happen in my ministry and other peoples ministries. But it effects, it is one of the main reasons for so many Muslims coming to the Lord in the Northern provinces, just seeing people being raised from the dead. They went into an area where they had been for 25 years and had only 25 converts and within the 1st year they had over 200 churches started I believe and I was there and I’m getting ready to go over there in a few days, and they have 5 or 600 people baptized in the Indian Ocean every month. Coming out of
Islam because of seeing the miracles in Jesus name.

SID: Now there’s another man that I interviewed that you prayed for and all of the sudden he can see into the invisible world. I mean all of the sudden this fellow can literally find out what’s going on in heaven and become like an actor, act it out on earth, and if it’s already happened in heaven…

RANDY: We have teenagers that have gone with us once a year, a big youth thing, 13 to 29 year olds, and I know several teenagers that have had that same, that happened to Gary, it’s going on in their life including my pastor’s 17 year old son.

SID: In your book you have the prayer for impartation and my personal spin right now Randy is teaching is as important as impartation, you have both in this book but if you are hungering and thirsting for reality, if you’ve tried religion and its ok, it’s nice, friends, social, and there are a lot of nice things involved in religion, a lot of bad things too for that matter. But there’s something so much bigger, something so much better, it’s intimacy with God. I mean if you know the truth no one can ever take that from you wherever you are, there’s more. In fact that’s the title of the book, There is More. Randy would you pray for this impartation, meaning the same type of gifting he has and even greater he is going to pray upon you right now.

RANDY: Alright. Well you may begin to feel something, if you do don’t try to stop it and don’t be afraid, it’s just the spirit of God coming on you whether it’s heat or energy or you begin to cry, just go with it. Father you know the ones that are hungry, you know the ones that are wanting this in their life, you know the ones who are believing for it so I just bless them in the name of Jesus and I ask for heaven to become real to them, for the spirit of God to come upon them, for angels of God to be assigned to them, to work with them. I bless them, I pray God that the gifts of the word of knowledge, the gift of prophecy would begin to happen in their life, that they would no what others were feeling and they would feel others pain, so I bless them and I pray for Your power to flow into their body, your power to flow into their mind. I pray that you would make them a blessing because you’ve blessed them. I pray for this power to flow out of them, when they pray for people that they would feel as Paul said, energy flowing into them. In Jesus name Lord we bless them and we expect to here great testimonies of how you used them because you’re no respecter of persons. Father we’ve seen you touch all types of people and Lord even if there’s someone there now that needs to be healed, would you touch them? Heal them, let them feel your power in Jesus name; glorify his name Father by healing them. Amen.

SID: I don’t know what’s going on with you but I can just tell you as a reporter what’s going on with me. Randy I am felling such supernatural peace. It’s almost like what you described happened to you. Now I’m not going through a nervous break down of fortunately but I’m feeling this peace. What does this peace mean? I believe this peace means the presence of God has invaded you. I believe this peace means that you are ready to walk into the most extraordinary adventure of your life. Remember he prayed in the name of Yeshua, Hebrew for Jesus. Give him the credit for this miracle.

SID: Sid Roth here with Randy Clark. We found out that all of the sudden there was an activation of the supernatural in his life. He started hearing words right in, Randy would you say when you would here these words were they more thoughts of were they like audible words or how did it operate?

RANDY: Well of the 5 different ways that I was told that you could receive them, I move primarily in the 1st one which is I would feel them in my body. I know exactly what it felt, I new exactly where it was, I could describe the pain and if I did get it that way, I was 90 percent accurate. If I had an impression I was 25 percent accurate so I leaned for years into that strength and did not develop the other. I was in my 30s then and now that I’m in my 50s I’m having to develop the impression side because I’m getting more of my own pain.

SID: Now when you have the impressions are you now getting the same results as when you had the pain?

RANDY: Yes, and I’m getting better at discerning the difference because at first I was just so accurate with when I felt them I just didn’t develop this other side by trial and error and now it’s much more accurate.

SID: Ok, look, I am fascinated at this meeting that you went to because I know this man; I interviewed him before anyone had ever heard of him in America. His name is Rodney Howard Brown. You went to his meeting because you were just plain desperate for a taste of God but you wanted what you had previously tasted but you wanted more and so I understand you were fasting, you were seeking God, you down to this meeting and he puts his hand on you, fire, lightening, Moses, what happened?

RANDY: It was actually different because in the earlier impartation I received, a guy prayed for me. Actually he didn’t even touch me, he prayed from the platform. I felt fire, electricity, shook…

SID: Were you scared?

RANDY: Yes, because I had never felt more than tears. When I feel Gods love I get teary eyed but I never felt power like that and that was scary and then in 89, that was 84, in 89 I had an experience where I was afraid that I was going to die, the power was so strong that I literally was fearful that I was going to die.

SID: Did you ask God to stop the power?

RANDY: No, I knew I didn’t want to ask him to stop but I said God you’re scaring me, I don’t think you want to kill me but are you aware that if you turn up the power, I am afraid that you’re going too. But this was the summer of 93 and I was expecting a similarity to that.

SID: Why?

RANDY: but it didn’t happen. I just fell down, I couldn’t stand up anymore and I thought that this is just a psychological suggestion because I don’t feel and electricity, I don’t feel any power or any heat or any energy. But when I tried to get up I couldn’t. I could move my head and that was it. And I got prayed for by him about five times in 24 hours and what I did feel was tremendous peace. Now I was on the verge of a nervous breakdown when I went and so what happened is that I received an impartation of peace and also joy. Uncontrollable laughter at one of the events.

SID: And so you are telling me that it was hard to be depressed with all of this peace that had invaded you?

RANDY: It was amazing and the things that I continue to do that had caused me to be so stressed out and now I added on to it another full time job so it is double what I had, double the stress, but I’m not stressed. I’m walking like in this bubble of peace.

SID: But you told that you could not physically get off the ground once you were down. Did you try?

RANDY: Yes.

SID: And what would happen?

RANDY: You just felt like a tremendous weight was on me and I realized that there had been in the things of God enough to know that I shouldn’t resist this, I should yield to it.

SID: But if you had resisted so you think that you could have just got up?

RANDY: Not the 1st one, the others I could, it was different, the other 4 times he prayed for me I couldn’t stand up but I could have quicker. The 1st time I was probably there a long time.

SID: Ok, your 1st meeting after you get back, what happened to the people in front of you?

RANDY: All heaven broke loose.

SID: What do you mean?

RANDY: People had never fallen down when I prayed for them in the 8 year history of the church and then every person we prayed for would.

SID: What causes them to fall down?

RANDY: They can’t stand up.

SID: Well that’s the logical thing but what is it that puts them down?

RANDY: The presence of God. One of the words for the Glory of God is weight and there’s such comes on you and some people fall forward and some people fall backwards.

SID: The Hebrew word is kavode which means heaviness. That is exactly what you are saying.

RANDY: It is a heaviness that comes and you can resist it. You know I tell people don’t fall down on purpose, that’s the flesh, but tighten up all the muscles in your body to try to keep standing up when this heaviness comes, just be like a sail in the wind. Don’t try to fall and don’t try to stand. Let God show you how to receive from him. So that’s really been helpful. It was very helpful for me because I would always bend over doubled trying to keep standing up when this weight would come.

SID: So people fell down, so what? What else happened?

RANDY: A lot of inner healing, a lot of healing of emotional stuff.

SID: Like what happened to you.

RANDY: Yeah but even more. People like for example, I don’t want to jump on you here but recently I was in Rochester New York and I spoke at a school, a private school, kindergarteners through seniors in high school, quite the challenge to hold their attention but God came, Third graders just weeping on their face before God, but their was a teacher there from, she was a Christian but she had never been aware of any of these types of phenomena that can occur and we didn’t even pray for her but the Spirit of God came while we were talking and she began to feel this heat in her hands and got hot all over and began to tremble and she went to one of the other teachers and said I’ve never felt anything like this in my life and she was afraid actually. But even though it was new, that’s where her fear came from, it had never happened before, she went with it. her daughter had been in a mental institution, a psych ward in a hospital for six months and there was no progression in there improvement and the doctor said we don’t know, we don’t have any good word that we can give you about when she is going to get out. Immediately following that meeting at the school she goes to her daughter and is praying for her, I want to pray for you honey, lays hands on her and she starts praying for her daughter, she has never done this before, and the daughter says mom, your hands are extremely hot. Two days later the psychiatrist calls the mother and says we don’t know what’s happened to your daughter because we saw no change for six months and in the last two days there’s been a significant change and he said we project for her to be released from the psych ward on June the 9th.

SID: Listen, you think that’s something? Randy then finds himself in a little storefront church. A tiny little storefront church in Toronto Canada, this same power erupts. People are traveling all over the world now from taking that glory. I’m going to have him pray for that same glory for you. Don’t go away we’ll be right back.

SID: Hello Sid Roth here, welcome to my world where it’s naturally supernatural. You see many people that speak about miracles, that’s all they do, they speak about miracles and then you have the phony bologna variety that are nothing more than slide of hand, magicians, but you can’t have a counterfeit unless you have the real thing. My guest Randy Clark, has traveled all over the world and see, Randy I don’t want to put words in your mouth but I believe that you have either seen or heard about every miracles that we read about in the days that Jesus walked in the flesh.

RANDY: Yes.

SID: And tell me about that day that you were just thinking about how blessed you were that you are not one of these varieties of religious people that think that miracles are from the past or they’ve stopped or, but you believe in miracles and your so grateful to God that you believe in miracles and God spoke to you. What did He say?

RANDY: So what.

SID: Did He really talk like that to you?

RANDY: Yeah and so what shocked me. I was sitting at the desk and I was the pastor of a Baptist church sitting in the office and I said God I’m glad I’m not a liberal, I believe that you did supernatural things, I’m glad that I’m not the sensationalist that believes that you stopped doing this, I believe you still do. And I was waiting for a well done good and faithful servant, proud of you son and what I heard real clear was, so what. It so shocked me that I said what do you mean, so what? And then the next thing that was so clear, He said, you might as well be a liberal of a sensationalist to say that you believe in these things but you don’t know how to move in them.

SID: Now, what did you do with a word like this? Did you say, so what? Or did you do something?

RANDY: I went out and I bought hundreds of dollars worth of books and I started to go to conferences where I could start learning everything from the Pentecostal to Charismatic Catholic theologians. I was reading everything I could to try to learn how to flow in the gifts of the spirit, particularly the word of knowledge and healing and prophecy is what I particularly trying to learn.

SID: Now when I think of you, I think of someone that hears a word from God, says it with your mouth and then all over the audience people are instantly healed. There was a conversation that you on the telephone which a light bulb went on in which it’s called words of knowledge from not your brain but from God about what He has already done and by stating it out loud it gives someone the faith to reach into the invisible world but you had a conversation on the telephone, tell me about that.

RANDY: Well I found out that there was a church called the Vineyard at that time and they were really amongst the best at training people, equipping them to learn how to flow in the gifts of the spirit. So I called that church And there was another guy that had just been kicked out of another denomination because he had been a pastor and he started moving in the gifts of the spirit, and he got kicked out and so he was doing an internship there and he said, so you believe in words of knowledge and I said, yeah, it’s found in 1st Corinthians chapter 12 verse 8, and he said well it’s good that you know the address but do you know how to move in it? I said, no and he said let me tell you, based on just the sociological study with people that we’ve interviewed that flow in that gift, we have found that you can feel a pain that is not yours, you can have an impression of a name of a disease that may come to your mind, you can see actually an organ of the body, you can see how somebody was injured, like a day dream type thing going on in your mind.

SID: Could you picture if a medical doctor had this type of gifting rather than this multiple guess?

RANDY: Yeah, and we’ve had quite a few doctors go with us over seas. They love ministering to people in the natural medical arts but they want to add to that and we’ve had numbers of doctors go with us, and research scientist and stuff.

SID: Tell me the very, so this fellow, you have a telephone conversation and its like light bulbs go on, oh is that what’s going on? Tell me the first time that you had this word of knowledge and you spoke it out and you saw results.

RANDY: We were praying for somebody at a distance, we weren’t with them and while we were praying for this person at a distance which is if what churches do pray for the sick, that is what they do, they just pray at home or while they’re at home they pray at the church for them. And when I was doing that I had a slight pain, not a slight pain but a quick pain for a split second in my eye and I was scared that it wasn’t God or I didn’t know if it was God or not. Could this be what that guy just told me about 4 days earlier? So it was on a Sunday night and I went to the pulpit and said I think there may be somebody here who might have something possibly wrong with their eye.

SID: Just trying to protect yourself.

RANDY: Yeah and then somebody stood up and said that’s me, I have tunnel vision and she was 67 years old and was losing sight in that tunnel vision and then I realized, oh my gosh, I got the cart before the horse because I know how to get the words of knowledge but we had to have a team to come in to teach us to pray for the sick. I don’t know how to pray for the sick. And so I got a word of wisdom then and I felt like ok, come up here and I want everybody in the church to come up here. And I thought if this doesn’t work they are now going to blame me by myself, we’ll all share the blame. So I said everybody, we’re all going to pray for you. And we prayed for her and to make a long story short, she was healed. Her eye opened up, she didn’t have tunnel vision any more and that was the very first word I ever had.

SID: you know what I notice is that sometimes these words expand and people know things about people, like it’s not just that someone has a pain in the eye, you were in a car accident 4 years ago and when they get that specific they can reach into that invisible world. Well let me tell you what happened to Randy. This gift started increasing but then all of the sudden it seemed to, nothing was going on in his life and he said I’ve got to get real serious with God and he went to a meeting and there was an out pouring of Gods presence that totally changed his destiny, his life, and now not only do miracles happen when he speaks, but other people then start operating in the same gifting. Don’t go away. We’ll be right back after this word.

SID: Hello, Sid Roth here with Aviad Cohen, and Aviad was known as 50 Shekel. And it swept the Jewish world, the non-Jewish world. When you were in Hollywood, you were actually invited to a Bible study. And this was kind of a new experience for you. What were your observations?

AVIAD: I was actually in Beverly Hills, and very nice people actually. Christians. I don’t think I really understood what Christians were, I just knew they believed in Jesus. Interesting Bible study. This was actually before I was 50 Shekel. And it was interesting because they were talking about all this scripture, but it completely flew over my head.

SID: Of course.

AVIAD: Completely flew over my head. Even if they talked about things in the Old Covenant, in the Tanach, in the Hebrew scriptures… These were Hebrew scriptures.

SID: You didn’t know from borsht.

AVIAD: No, not at all. Not at all. But then I’m Jewish, shouldn’t I know?

SID: Yeah, you should, but you don’t.

AVIAD: Exactly. Without Jesus, how would I? So they asked me, “Would you like to accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior?” And I was like “I don’t even know the Guy. I’m not going to do this.” The thing is, I just wished they would’ve shared with me the Hebraic roots of my Messiah, that they would’ve said “Hey, Jesus’ real name is Yeshua, ok. He’s the true Jew Messiah as prophesied in the Old Covenant. Read Isaiah 53, Zechariah 12:10. Check out Jeremiah 31:31. It talks about a New Covenant that God would make with His people, because they broke the Old Covenant.” So any Jew who hasn’t accepted Yeshua is under, it’s like an Old Covenant, it’s like a broken car – it don’t work.

SID: Ha! Ok, but they didn’t do that, you did not say “I believe in Jesus.” You thought they were a little mashuga, between you and me, a little crazy.

AVIAD: A little mashuga.

SID: Ok, so you’re back in New York, you’re saying “I want to identify even more. I want to be part of the orthodox Jewish community, I want to go to the Torah studies.” And one particular Shabbat, Sabbath, you went to a Torah study. Tell me about your recollection of that.

AVIAD: Actually I was staying at a rabbi’s house for the Shabbat; Friday and Saturday.
So Friday, we have a meal, go to shule, have a meal, go to sleep. Shabbat, Saturday, go to shule, come back to the rabbi’s house, have a meal. By the time I came back after the meal, I was all liturgied out, because there’s so much liturgy. All I was doing was “davon this, davon that.” You’ve got to do this before you davon that, before you go to sleep you’ve got to davon that, davon this, davon that, davon, davon, davon…

SID: Davon means to pray.

AVIAD: Yeah. And I can’t do this. I was like “Is this what it means to be a Jew? Is this what I’m supposed to do?” I didn’t even know what the term “liturgy” was at that point.
Now I do. And I was like “What is this?” And honestly, there were people all in the house, and I just broke down crying, I’m like “God! God!” Before actually, I told these guys, “This is too much for me. I can’t do this. I can’t do any of this liturgy. This is too much for me to do. This cannot be what we’re supposed to be doing.” And I started crying. I just cried and cried. And then I just went to the rabbi, I told the rabbi “I’m leaving. I can’t do this anymore.” He was like “You know something? You can’t leave.
You have to stay here.” I’m like “Why?” He was like “If you want to leave, you leave after Shabbat.” I was like “You’re keeping me against my will?” He was like “You stay here until Shabbat’s over.” I was kind of kidnapped; you know what I’m saying.

SID: He didn’t want you to walk or carry anything.

AVIAD: Yeah, to break his Sabbath. But you know something? Let me tell you something. We live in the United States of America, ok, and you can’t keep somebody, you can’t force somebody to stay at your house. It doesn’t matter. That’s religion. I wanted the truth.

SID: So what happened? What happened?

AVIAD: And that’s why I was crying in the rabbi’s kid’s room by myself with a box of tissues. I had my feet on the floor, like on the inside, just crying, crying out to God, “God please, please help me. Please show me the truth. Show me Your truth. This cannot be of You. This cannot be of You!” And I just had tons of tissues. And you know something? I have to reach out so much, I have to get to the point where I’m just like that’s it. Because all I want to do is be a nice Jewish boy, in that sense. I just wanted to fulfill that. I’m a Jew. I’m chosen. What am I chosen for? And so, I just cried so much. I’d never cried like that my entire life. Never, ever have I cried like that. And in order for you to get God’s attention sometimes, you have to be so desperate that you cry out to Him and you tell Him “I want to know You now!”

SID: Ok. The scriptures say, Jeremiah says “In the day that you seek God with all of your heart, in that day He’ll be found.” That’s where Aviad is headed. Don’t go away, we’ll be right back after this word.