Sid: We want everyone everywhere to be red hot for the Messiah, but there are things that stopping you.  There’s things that are stopping you from receiving the healing of God, there are things that are stopping you from receiving the peace of God.  Theres people listening to me your blood pressure is elevated, you have diabetes, you can’t sleep at night, you’re fearful that you’re going to be penniless and be homeless shortly.  You’re family is falling apart, what if you could pass up every problem, not as an ostrich, but because you’re walking in such supernatural peace and do that consistently and walk 24-7 in the peace of God?  Could you see what a difference that would make in your life?  My guest Larry Hutton was taught step by step by the Lord Himself on how to do this and since 1977 he’s been able to walk that way.  Now Larry, tell me about why you say worry is perverted imagination?

Larry: Well the Lord showed me that when we worry we’re taking an imagination that was given by Him.  For example, when you’re a kid you imagine, what do you imagine when you’re a kid?  Most kids where their imagination is still right, their imaging that they can fly, their imaging they can just breathe under water, they are imaging these wonderful…

Sid: Oh, they’re Peter Pan, their flying.

Larry: Their imagination is just always positive and thinking great and wonderful things.  And then worry all it is is you imagining something bad; you’re imagining something and the thing about worry is worry always dwells with the unknown.  And when we talk worry you’re talking stress too, because stress and worry are all forms of fear.  And so when you’re worried about something you are worrying about the unknown.  Well, my child hadn’t gotten home yet maybe they had gotten in a accident, worry, worry, worry.  You know what, the end of the month we may not have enough money, it’s always dwelling on the unknown.

Sid: This symptom I see in my body might be cancer.

Larry: There you go, yeah, you’re worried about something that you don’t know and so you’re imagination has been perverted, you are now dwelling on something, you’re dwelling on the wrong thing instead of the right thing.  God’s word is truth, that’s what we’re supposed to be dwelling on.

Sid: So when you dwell on the right thing God makes it happen, when you dwell on the wrong thing could you say the devil makes it happen?

Larry: That’s a good thing because you definitely got him behind the works of darkness so that’s absolutely a good statement Sid.

Sid: Let me ask you something that you bring up that not many people think about and that is worry, stress, fear, it’s really rooted in pride.  It’s really rooted on putting yourself on the throne not trusting God, explain.

Larry: Well the Lord told me, He said, “Larry when you allow worry to come into your life; or you allow depression or any of those negative emotions, He said what your doing is in essence taking me off the throne of your life and your putting yourself up there.  You’re trying to handle it yourself, that is pride.”  And of course He took me over to Peter where it says, “Humble yourself by casting your care.”  So I found out you what?  If I allow that to stay then I’m just telling the Lord, “Lord, I’ll handle this one without You, I’ll go ahead and worry about it I’ll go ahead and get depressed about it.”  Even though you’re not actually saying that, that is in essence what you’re doing when you don’t’ allow the Lord to just take care of that and not be stressed and not be worried about it.  But you can’t do it on your own, we talked about that earlier in the week, you have to use this supernatural peace that He put on the inside of you that is the grace that empowers you and empowers me to actually overcome.

Sid: Speaking of the pride and I do say pride with quotes “of worry” tell me about this pastor’s daughter that was a generational chronic worrier.

Larry: Oh, she was raised in a denomination, she was taught that you know, there’s going to be people in the family that are worriers and you just happen to be one so just accept your lot in life.  And she said she was that way for, I can’t remember I would have to pull the testimony out, it seems like it was twenty-four or thirty-four years and I’m thinking wow that’s a long time.  She just worry and she worried herself sick and just depressed and all this stuff and even her family members were telling her it is just because you have a gift and God’s made you concerned about people.  And she finally got a hold of my teaching and learned that God gave her His peace and that she didn’t have to be this way and it changed her life!  She was so ecstatic she was so thrilled that she said “I do not have to be this way anymore.”  And for now on my generation, my children and my children’s children they’re not going to have be that way because they are going to learn the truth of God’s word.

Sid: Do many people that get a hold of your teaching that suffer from sleep deprivation or insomnia have changes?

Larry: Yeah, that’s real good, I’m glad you brought that up because we had a number of instances, even while I’m preaching on this subject all of a sudden the Lord will begin ministering to me.  In fact I feel like there’s some that’s listening right now that you’ve had sleep disorders, in fact I can see one that you’ve been on different types of medication, the doctors have been trying different types of medication and God says that you can actually lay down in peace.  In Psalm 4:8 you can lay down in peace, you don’t have to eat the bread of sorrows, you don’t have to stay awake and have all kinds of things bothering your emotions.  You can actually lay down in peace and your sleep can be sweet according to Proverb 3:24.  And so I just lease that to you right now as your listening, that the peace of God that passes your understanding will garrison your heart and mind in Christ Jesus.  But yes Sid, we have we’ve had many people that have gotten a hold of this and wow, I don’t have to be kept awake at night because of worry or stress or anger or something.  I don’t have to wake up early in the morning and not be able to go back to sleep because of these negative emotions that I can use God’s peace and I can sleep like a log, not like a baby, like a log.

Sid: What actually happens to someone when they worry all the time?

Larry: You know, worry opens up the door for all kinds of problems in the physical body; it opens up the door for problems in their finances and their marriage.  It opens up so many different doors because worry, because when you stop and think about it, worry is sin.  I mean God said in Roman’s 14:23 “Whatever is not of faith is sin.”  Well, I can’t worry in faith, I can’t worry, I can’t use my faith to worry so if I’m worried then that mean I’m not truly believing that God’s going to take care of it.  And that positions me then in a place where I’m not hearing from God, I open up the door for these symptoms of sickness and diseases to come in.  It’s just not a place where God wants me, He want me worry free.  And like you said and let me just reiterate for those that are listening, Sid’s telling you the truth, I have not had a down day, a depressed day, a stressed day a strife filled day since 1977.  I’ve had moments because all of us face the moments, but it’s what you do when that moment whether it becomes longer than a moment, and you could use God’s peace to keep it short and sweet and lightful.

Sid: And now you teach on a Greek word that means cares, tell me briefly because I thought that was revolutionary.

Larry: Well the Lord showed me that the Greek word that were suppose the cast our cares comes from a root word that means, divided.  In fact it’s used when Jesus said a house that’s divided against itself cannot stand.  Well whenever we allow worries to come in and depression and stress and fears and it divides us from God, it divides us from people.  Of course we know division is not good we’re supposed to be whole in unity and harmony with God; and so I saw that it was just a trick of the enemy and a work of the devil to try to get us all messed up and divided.  It kind of, it’s a picture of even division in yourself that you’re you know you’re just messed up.  You’re thinking one way one moment, thinking another moment instead of being in this peace that God wants us to operate in.

Sid: This division now when I was reading this says the Greek word actually means to cut into pieces.

Larry: I know, isn’t that amazing.  It’s like…

Sid: No wonder people are not above and their beneath if their all cut in pieces.

Larry: And how many times do you and I hear people Sid, “Oh I’m just torn apart and I just feel like I’m cut in pieces,” and they don’t even realize that they are saying the very thing that the word meant in the Greek language.  It’s because their all torn up in the inside and their all messed up because they’ve allowed that depression and that fear and stress to remain.  And yet they don’t have to Sid, we don’t have to have it in our lives.

Sid: I’m feeling such a peace of God … I mean no worry no fear, no problems with your temper or your emotions and stress and strife and on and on.  Could you imagine living 24-7 in that kind of peace?  I can imagine that.  I can imagine that that’s going to be the thing that’s going to divide this world between the true believers and the phony believers.

Larry: Yes.

Sid: My guest Ruth Fazal is a violinist and there is something about the violin if the person playing the violin is a strong believer and has been under the anointing of God for years it comes out.  But a lot of other things are happening when people hear your music.  There are things happening to you, tell me about the time you were translated to Jerusalem.

Ruth: Well, there was one time that I was away on tour and I was in my hotel room and I suddenly found myself praying, but I was praying against the wall of the hotel room and I couldn’t get myself away from it.  And I just kind of had my head glued to the wall, but I realized, but I’m not at the wall of my hotel room I’m in Jerusalem.  At this point I hadn’t ever been there and so it was such, it was such a strong sense and I couldn’t leave I couldn’t come away from it and it was such a connection.  So I mean that was was an amazing time.

Sid: How about when you were translated to Hebron, that’s the place that Abraham was buried.

Ruth: Yeah, oh gosh that was actually one of these Glory nights at my home, and there was something that kind of opened up in the room.  Well, I knew well enough now that okay, something opens up I go as a child and I do it.  And I started walking and it was like down a pathway.  And now, I’ve never been to the Tomb of the Patriarchs in Hebron, but I know that that’s where Abraham and Sarah and that’s where Isaac is buried.  And you know I, something burning very much on my heart in these days is the Father Heart of God for the healing between the brothers Ishmael and Isaac.  And it’s really, it’s really strong in me and I know that that’s the next thing that God is doing in me and that He’s going to come.  Something is going to come out of this.  But any way on this occasion I’m walking down this path in the Spirit and I see the Father at the far end of the path and I see these two men walking towards him.  And I know that one is Isaac and one is Ishmael.  And I see them walking together, well their not walking together, but their walking toward the Father.  And at the point where they reach Him He embraces them and I don’t know if your familiar with that beautiful painting of Rembrandt of the prodigal son, it’s that sort or the sense of the Father embracing, but he’s embracing the two of them together.  It was so powerful and I knew at that time the Lord was saying, “One day you are going there to the Tomb of the Patriarchs and you are going to play that.  It’s almost like a playing it into being; and I don’t know when the Lord going to open up, I’m hoping it’s going to be really soon.

Sid: Well, you literally prophesy when you play your violin, do you realize that?

Ruth: Yes, yes I know that.

Sid: You’re prophesying over people, just as if you were to speak in unknown supernatural languages, you don’t know what you’re doing, but you’re prophesying in tongues with the violin.  That’s what I believe.

Ruth: Yeah, I believe that too, and I also realize that, I mean I’ve played also in places like I’ve stood on the tracks in Auschwitz and I’ve played.  And I know that there is a sense in which God, you know that he transcends time and so it’s like I’ve often thought of the image of like you know like a tree trunk, when you cut a tree trunk you see all the rings of the tree?

Sid: Right.

Ruth: And it’s like the Lord can come and He can put His finger on one of those rings and He can bring healing; it is like in our lives.  And so I think it is the same for a nation.  It’s the same for a people and so you know I feel at sometimes when the Lord takes me with the violin He says, okay I want you to stand on this ring right here and play.

Sid: Let’s do that right now from your “Songs from the River CD,” let’s hear “Dawn.”  CD Excerpt. That was from “Songs of the River” by Ruth Fazal.  And Ruth, I’m doing people a disservice because sitting under that music changes you.  It makes you more, I call it, “Heavenly Music” it makes you more Heavenly minded…I wish everyone would sit under this music.  Now you have an amazing burden for the Jew in Israel, obviously came from God.  Tell me about how that happened.

Ruth: Well, I think what happened was, my prayer has always been, “God, give me your heart.” You know, I wrote a song about it so I shouldn’t be surprised when God answers the cry of my heart when I say, “Give me your heart, Lord.”  And so what happened was somebody gave me a book of poetry from the Holocaust and from the concentration Camp of Terezin.  And He asked me to take some of the poems of the children that had died in the Holocaust and put them together with portions of the Hebrew Scriptures and just portray His heart in the midst of the suffering.  I hadn’t a clue what He was asking, this turned out to be huge it turned out to be life changing.  I didn’t, I’ve never turned back, but I found it at the end of two and a half years of writing this piece and going so deep into it that the Lord had literally, I don’t know how else to describe it, but that he had inserted the people into my heart.

Sid: Now, you call your piece, Oratorical Terezin which you have literally had concerts in Israel and in Europe and even in Carnegie Hall.  What reaction do you get?

Ruth: Well, always a jumping to their feet at the end.  The piece ends on an incredible note of hope and that’s I think what people are responding to.  Everywhere we’ve done it we’ve always given tickets, free tickets to Holocaust Survivors.  And like for instance the premier performance in Tel Aviv was on Yom Hashoah and the Lord planned that one.

Sid: The Day of Remembrance.

Ruth: Yeah, yeah and there were probably about 6 or 700 survivors of the Holocaust amongst the 3,000 people in the audience.  And it was just amazing because you know it’s like hope begins to rise in their hearts.

Sid: Now so many Holocaust survivors gave up on God because of what they went through.  Do you see any change in their heart when they listen to your music?

Ruth: Yeah, I think so.  I mean the thing that I feel with the Oratorio is that it’s a question to them that says, will you reconsider the goodness of God?  And certainly those that have been there, those that I have met, I remember one woman coming to me after the first performance in Toronto.  Actually a survivor of Terezin at the end of Auschwitz and she just came up to me and she said, “How did you know.”  And I just looked at her and I said, “Well, I don’t, I don’t know, but God does.”  And it was just, I mean I knew all the time that I was writing this that there was no way, I had no background in this, I really had no right to even address the subject.  But I knew that I had to go into God’s heart.  And so I think hope is the word that just comes and the willingness to even just consider again that God did not abandon his people.

Sid: Now, how did God change you when you went into His heart concerning the Jew in Israel?

Ruth: I don’t know, all I know is that it’s so undeniably strong that it’s like these people are my people.

Sid: Listen, I believe the dividing line of the true church and the phony church will be a proper understanding of the Jew in Israel in these last days.