SID: My guest, John McTernan, says that he sees a direct connection between 9/11, and the U.S., and the way the U.S. handles Israel. What is that?

JOHN: Well Sid, I just want to refresh your viewers memories that we’re talking about 50 or 60 or 70 same day events, or things happening around the same day regarding the United States pressuring Israel. So 9/11 is not just isolated.

SID: In other words, within 24 hours usually, or even the exact moment, when something bad happens to America, since 1991, John has documented there’s a direct correlation with our handling of Israel. So, continue.

JOHN: So just prior to 9/11, within a week prior to 9/11, and the information I’m relaying to you comes from information that the White House released and picked up by the national newspapers. The President’s formulated policy towards Israel was a two state policy, in that on September 13th, Secretary of State (at that time) Powell was going to notify the Saudi Arabian Ambassador that we were going to unilaterally recognize a Palestinian state, and that was going to be announced at the general assembly of the United Nations on September 23rd, 2001. So 9/11 occurred right at the very time we were going to unilaterally recognize a Palestinian state, and 9/11 put the brakes on it. And we, then, became at war with the same terrorists. I don’t see much difference between the Palestinian terrorists and Osama bin-Laden. I seen the same bedfellows there. We are at war now with the same enemies that Israel is at war with – literally we are at war.

SID: You know, in your book, I think it is absolutely amazing, as you trace two countries that are similar: the United States of America, and Russia, the former Soviet Union, and how one country went against the Jew and what happened to them, and the other country blessed the Jew and what happened to them. Would you explain?

JOHN: Sid, it’s really quite an analogy, where the Jews were being driven out of Russia simply because they were Jewish. The Russians were doing every conceivable thing to drive them out. The only country in the world – now we’re talking starting in 1881, Sid – the only country in the world who would accept them was the United States. All of Europe closed the doors, whoever else closed the doors. The United States opens the door wide, and however many Jews came out of Russia, we accepted. Eventually it was somewhere between 2 or 3 million Jews fled Russia and came to the United States. But in my book, I document, starting in 1881, God began to raise us up as a world power.

SID: So you can pinpoint it?

JOHN: You can pinpoint it to the year, Sid. To the very year. Isn’t that amazing? As we accepted the Jews into our country, God began to raise us up as a world power, and I show it, almost year by year, this parallel.

SID: Now what happened to Russia when they did these things?

JOHN: Sid, I want to speak briefly on what’s called the May Laws of 1883. And it was draconian laws that the Russian government, backed by the Russian Orthodox Church, applied on the Jewish people. For example, they were only allowed to live in a small section of Russia. If they were outside that, they lost their property, they lost their business, they lost their land – at gunpoint – and they were driven into this section. They lived in small, little enclaves. Their businesses would be stolen from them. Their kids couldn’t go to school. They couldn’t worship Judaism. They lived in terror. And then the pogroms started, which is organized assaults on the Jewish people. And I believe that when you look at what the Russian people did to the Jewish people, that communism was nothing more than the May Laws of 1883 applied to all of Russia. Now, the Russian Orthodox Church couldn’t worship. Like they were doing to the Jews, it hit the Russian Orthodox Church.

SID: It’s like the law of sowing and reaping. As they were evil to the Jews, they reaped evil.

JOHN: One generation later, it came on them. If you can think of Russia and Stalin and Lenin, how they would uproot whole bunches of people and move them, send them to Siberia, that’s exactly what they did to the Jewish people, Sid. Their land, you couldn’t own land in Russia. Land was stolen from people. The Jewish people, their land was stolen from them. So I look at communism, one aspect of it, is punishment. You bless the Jew, America was blessed. You curse the Jew, the Russians got communism. And communism was nothing more than the May Laws of 1883 applied to the whole nation.

SID: Well, here we are now, the United States of America. As far as I’m concerned, one of the greatest countries the world has ever known. But John, you say in your book we’re at a crossroads. What do you mean?

JOHN: Sid, the American government, and specifically the Presidency, and I’m not getting into Democrat or Republican because it was the same under the Democrats as it is under Republicans, we are interfering with God’s prophetic plan, like we had mentioned before about Gaza. And God, in His mercy, is trying to bring this to our attention. He’s trying to wake the church, Sid, because it’s really on our shoulders here. We need power from the church, we need intercession from the church, we need prayer from the church.

SID: Alright, what’s going to happen if we continue fostering a two state solution in the Middle East, to the United States?

JOHN: God will break our back, Sid. It’ll either be… I don’t know exactly how He’s going to do it, there’s several ways that are indicated by these warning judgments, but we will no longer be a world power. He will force us to stop interfering with Israel. It’s a matter of how severe the judgment will fall, Sid. There’s no doubt our back will be broken here. We can no longer interfere.

SID: One minute – look in the camera, talk to President Bush. What would you say to him?

JOHN: President Bush, please stop interfering with the affairs of Israel. Bless Israel. Stand with Israel to support Israel if it’s attacked by Ahmadinejad, for example, of Iran. But no longer interfere with the integrity of the nation of Israel.

SID: Do you believe that there is teeth behind that threat of Iran?

JOHN: There is no doubt about it Sid, absolutely no doubt about it. They will attack when the have the capability of doing it. No doubt.

SID: So what would you advise President Bush to do right now, in reference to Iran?

JOHN: Well he’s already told Iran that if they attack Israel that we will defend Israel. The President has said that, March of last year, which is a tremendous thing to say. No other nation in the world would dare say that. That’s the dichotomy in the United States.

SID: Listen, here’s what I believe. I believe we’re buying time. And I want as much time as possible here in the United States. I want this to be the land of the brave and the land of the free. I want it to be a place for Jewish people to be free. I’m Jewish. I also happen to be a Russian Jew, so I’m very grateful to the United States of America. But I say this to you, that one day, according to the Bible, every Jew will end up in Israel. But the problem is, the safest place in the world is not the United States, for a Jew. The safest place in the world is not Israel, for a Jew. There’s only one safe place for a Jew, and that is intimacy with God. There’s only one way to have intimacy with God. There’s only one God, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. There is only one Messiah, not a Messiah for the Jews and a Messiah for the Gentiles. There’s only one Covenant. Jewish people already have the correct Covenant. It’s called the New Covenant. It’s found in Jeremiah 31:31. Gentiles are grafted in to the new Jewish Covenant found in Jeremiah 31:31. When someone tells God they’re sorry for their sins, (that’s called repentance), and asks God to forgive them in the name of the Jewish Messiah, Jesus – Yeshua – and believes that He separated their sins from them and took them on Himself, and boldly proclaims “Yeshua’s my Messiah and Lord”, then you are under the New Covenant, you have intimacy with God, and there could not be a safer place than in the arms of Yeshua.

SID: Unbelievable, I mean Randy Clark goes to this little store front church in Toronto Canada and in the next few years 3 million people go through, was it 3 million that went through?

RANDY: Just in the 1st few years.

SID: In the first few years? This little storefront church?

RANDY: From all over the world.

SID: I want you to pick one person that came there that you prayed for that you received and impartation, that’s why I’m so excited about your book, There Must be More, because this book you actually pray for impartations, you got your greatest impartations from just teaching, understanding how these things operate. Do you wish that you had this information when you started?

RANDY: It would have been invaluable.

SID: I wish I had this information when I started. So tell me about one of my favorite people, you know I have a lot of favorite people that you prayed for and the whole world turned upside down in a good way. Tell us about Heidi and Roland Baker, tell me about Heidi Baker.

RANDY: Well I was preaching a sermon on impartation.

SID: Just like in here.

RANDY: It’s in there. The basis of it. And she can’t wait till it’s over, she runs in the middle of it to the front and when I see her on her knees crying I actually had a strong impression from the Lord God and I said Heidi God wants to know if you want the nation of Mozambique and she said yes. Now she’s a burned out missionary and that’s a ridiculous question to ask and it was ridiculous that she would say yes but then I heard myself say God is going to give you the nation of Mozambique and you’ll se the blind see, the deaf here, the lame walk and the dead will be raised.

SID: Now wait a second, there’s a lot of responsibility you saying something like that. Doesn’t, don’t you kind of tremble of maybe it’s just my ideas? Come on, between you and me.

RANDY: That was so strong that you say it before you think about the consequences of it.

SID: I see, you had a mind bypass.

RANDY: It really was. You know Heidi and I have laughed about it. We’re both crazy because it’s so illogical that that would ever happen from a little burned out missionary with a small little church.

SID: How many churches had she started since in Mozambique?

RANDY: Seven. She and her husband, well one in Mozambique, seven in her lifetime.

SID: Let’s fast forward right now. How many churches has she started now?

RANDY: Over 7,000.

SID: Did you say 7000? In how long a period of time?

RANDY: Seven years, and approximately 1,000,000 people have come to the Lord through Jesus Christ through there.

SID: Through impartation through this one person?

RANDY: Well it multiplied. What happened to her lasted 7 days and 7 nights and the power of God hit her, heat, electricity and energy and she heard the voice of God and went into visions and everything. But then when she went back to Mozambique she gathered 12 men together and God said now everything Randy prophesied to you, he prophesied to them and she spoke to them the same words and the Word of God came on to them too. And then they went out and that was the instant multiplication and it’s continuing, they lay hands on people and pray for them and they begin to move in gifts.

SID: Now she, how many orphans does she have?

RANDY: There’s over 1000 in the 2 orphanages but every church they start are to have an orphanage and the pastor is to adopt children into his own personal family, in every church.

SID: Now listen this is not just religion that you may be used to, there’s Judaism, Christianity, Islam, this is the same thing we read about in the new covenant, that Jesus did, the identical things. For instance, any dead people coming back to life under Heidi’s ministry of the 12 people she prayed for?

RANDY: Through their ministry at this point, I think 54 now, most of them in the Muslim territories.

SID: Now of these 54 were they dead for a few seconds or a few minutes?

RANDY: You know I forgot Sid exactly what it is but they have to be dead for several hours before they’ll count it and they have to live for a year after they’ve been raised before they’ll count it. And I’ve interviewed them. One of my hobbies is to interview people who raise the dead.

SID: Did you ever talk to any that had some sort of experience when they died? And talked about it. I mean as far as seeing Jesus or something like that.

RANDY: I can’t think right now.

SID: That’s what I want to know. What did you see? I mean everyone is going to die. You can’t avoid it. So I’d like to know what these people have seen. Wouldn’t you? Ok.

RANDY: I don’t remember the stories of that because I’m usually asking questions to the people that are praying for them because I want to see this begin to happen in my ministry and other peoples ministries. But it effects, it is one of the main reasons for so many Muslims coming to the Lord in the Northern provinces, just seeing people being raised from the dead. They went into an area where they had been for 25 years and had only 25 converts and within the 1st year they had over 200 churches started I believe and I was there and I’m getting ready to go over there in a few days, and they have 5 or 600 people baptized in the Indian Ocean every month. Coming out of
Islam because of seeing the miracles in Jesus name.

SID: Now there’s another man that I interviewed that you prayed for and all of the sudden he can see into the invisible world. I mean all of the sudden this fellow can literally find out what’s going on in heaven and become like an actor, act it out on earth, and if it’s already happened in heaven…

RANDY: We have teenagers that have gone with us once a year, a big youth thing, 13 to 29 year olds, and I know several teenagers that have had that same, that happened to Gary, it’s going on in their life including my pastor’s 17 year old son.

SID: In your book you have the prayer for impartation and my personal spin right now Randy is teaching is as important as impartation, you have both in this book but if you are hungering and thirsting for reality, if you’ve tried religion and its ok, it’s nice, friends, social, and there are a lot of nice things involved in religion, a lot of bad things too for that matter. But there’s something so much bigger, something so much better, it’s intimacy with God. I mean if you know the truth no one can ever take that from you wherever you are, there’s more. In fact that’s the title of the book, There is More. Randy would you pray for this impartation, meaning the same type of gifting he has and even greater he is going to pray upon you right now.

RANDY: Alright. Well you may begin to feel something, if you do don’t try to stop it and don’t be afraid, it’s just the spirit of God coming on you whether it’s heat or energy or you begin to cry, just go with it. Father you know the ones that are hungry, you know the ones that are wanting this in their life, you know the ones who are believing for it so I just bless them in the name of Jesus and I ask for heaven to become real to them, for the spirit of God to come upon them, for angels of God to be assigned to them, to work with them. I bless them, I pray God that the gifts of the word of knowledge, the gift of prophecy would begin to happen in their life, that they would no what others were feeling and they would feel others pain, so I bless them and I pray for Your power to flow into their body, your power to flow into their mind. I pray that you would make them a blessing because you’ve blessed them. I pray for this power to flow out of them, when they pray for people that they would feel as Paul said, energy flowing into them. In Jesus name Lord we bless them and we expect to here great testimonies of how you used them because you’re no respecter of persons. Father we’ve seen you touch all types of people and Lord even if there’s someone there now that needs to be healed, would you touch them? Heal them, let them feel your power in Jesus name; glorify his name Father by healing them. Amen.

SID: I don’t know what’s going on with you but I can just tell you as a reporter what’s going on with me. Randy I am felling such supernatural peace. It’s almost like what you described happened to you. Now I’m not going through a nervous break down of fortunately but I’m feeling this peace. What does this peace mean? I believe this peace means the presence of God has invaded you. I believe this peace means that you are ready to walk into the most extraordinary adventure of your life. Remember he prayed in the name of Yeshua, Hebrew for Jesus. Give him the credit for this miracle.

SID: Sid Roth here with Randy Clark. We found out that all of the sudden there was an activation of the supernatural in his life. He started hearing words right in, Randy would you say when you would here these words were they more thoughts of were they like audible words or how did it operate?

RANDY: Well of the 5 different ways that I was told that you could receive them, I move primarily in the 1st one which is I would feel them in my body. I know exactly what it felt, I new exactly where it was, I could describe the pain and if I did get it that way, I was 90 percent accurate. If I had an impression I was 25 percent accurate so I leaned for years into that strength and did not develop the other. I was in my 30s then and now that I’m in my 50s I’m having to develop the impression side because I’m getting more of my own pain.

SID: Now when you have the impressions are you now getting the same results as when you had the pain?

RANDY: Yes, and I’m getting better at discerning the difference because at first I was just so accurate with when I felt them I just didn’t develop this other side by trial and error and now it’s much more accurate.

SID: Ok, look, I am fascinated at this meeting that you went to because I know this man; I interviewed him before anyone had ever heard of him in America. His name is Rodney Howard Brown. You went to his meeting because you were just plain desperate for a taste of God but you wanted what you had previously tasted but you wanted more and so I understand you were fasting, you were seeking God, you down to this meeting and he puts his hand on you, fire, lightening, Moses, what happened?

RANDY: It was actually different because in the earlier impartation I received, a guy prayed for me. Actually he didn’t even touch me, he prayed from the platform. I felt fire, electricity, shook…

SID: Were you scared?

RANDY: Yes, because I had never felt more than tears. When I feel Gods love I get teary eyed but I never felt power like that and that was scary and then in 89, that was 84, in 89 I had an experience where I was afraid that I was going to die, the power was so strong that I literally was fearful that I was going to die.

SID: Did you ask God to stop the power?

RANDY: No, I knew I didn’t want to ask him to stop but I said God you’re scaring me, I don’t think you want to kill me but are you aware that if you turn up the power, I am afraid that you’re going too. But this was the summer of 93 and I was expecting a similarity to that.

SID: Why?

RANDY: but it didn’t happen. I just fell down, I couldn’t stand up anymore and I thought that this is just a psychological suggestion because I don’t feel and electricity, I don’t feel any power or any heat or any energy. But when I tried to get up I couldn’t. I could move my head and that was it. And I got prayed for by him about five times in 24 hours and what I did feel was tremendous peace. Now I was on the verge of a nervous breakdown when I went and so what happened is that I received an impartation of peace and also joy. Uncontrollable laughter at one of the events.

SID: And so you are telling me that it was hard to be depressed with all of this peace that had invaded you?

RANDY: It was amazing and the things that I continue to do that had caused me to be so stressed out and now I added on to it another full time job so it is double what I had, double the stress, but I’m not stressed. I’m walking like in this bubble of peace.

SID: But you told that you could not physically get off the ground once you were down. Did you try?

RANDY: Yes.

SID: And what would happen?

RANDY: You just felt like a tremendous weight was on me and I realized that there had been in the things of God enough to know that I shouldn’t resist this, I should yield to it.

SID: But if you had resisted so you think that you could have just got up?

RANDY: Not the 1st one, the others I could, it was different, the other 4 times he prayed for me I couldn’t stand up but I could have quicker. The 1st time I was probably there a long time.

SID: Ok, your 1st meeting after you get back, what happened to the people in front of you?

RANDY: All heaven broke loose.

SID: What do you mean?

RANDY: People had never fallen down when I prayed for them in the 8 year history of the church and then every person we prayed for would.

SID: What causes them to fall down?

RANDY: They can’t stand up.

SID: Well that’s the logical thing but what is it that puts them down?

RANDY: The presence of God. One of the words for the Glory of God is weight and there’s such comes on you and some people fall forward and some people fall backwards.

SID: The Hebrew word is kavode which means heaviness. That is exactly what you are saying.

RANDY: It is a heaviness that comes and you can resist it. You know I tell people don’t fall down on purpose, that’s the flesh, but tighten up all the muscles in your body to try to keep standing up when this heaviness comes, just be like a sail in the wind. Don’t try to fall and don’t try to stand. Let God show you how to receive from him. So that’s really been helpful. It was very helpful for me because I would always bend over doubled trying to keep standing up when this weight would come.

SID: So people fell down, so what? What else happened?

RANDY: A lot of inner healing, a lot of healing of emotional stuff.

SID: Like what happened to you.

RANDY: Yeah but even more. People like for example, I don’t want to jump on you here but recently I was in Rochester New York and I spoke at a school, a private school, kindergarteners through seniors in high school, quite the challenge to hold their attention but God came, Third graders just weeping on their face before God, but their was a teacher there from, she was a Christian but she had never been aware of any of these types of phenomena that can occur and we didn’t even pray for her but the Spirit of God came while we were talking and she began to feel this heat in her hands and got hot all over and began to tremble and she went to one of the other teachers and said I’ve never felt anything like this in my life and she was afraid actually. But even though it was new, that’s where her fear came from, it had never happened before, she went with it. her daughter had been in a mental institution, a psych ward in a hospital for six months and there was no progression in there improvement and the doctor said we don’t know, we don’t have any good word that we can give you about when she is going to get out. Immediately following that meeting at the school she goes to her daughter and is praying for her, I want to pray for you honey, lays hands on her and she starts praying for her daughter, she has never done this before, and the daughter says mom, your hands are extremely hot. Two days later the psychiatrist calls the mother and says we don’t know what’s happened to your daughter because we saw no change for six months and in the last two days there’s been a significant change and he said we project for her to be released from the psych ward on June the 9th.

SID: Listen, you think that’s something? Randy then finds himself in a little storefront church. A tiny little storefront church in Toronto Canada, this same power erupts. People are traveling all over the world now from taking that glory. I’m going to have him pray for that same glory for you. Don’t go away we’ll be right back.

SID: Hello Sid Roth here, welcome to my world where it’s naturally supernatural. You see many people that speak about miracles, that’s all they do, they speak about miracles and then you have the phony bologna variety that are nothing more than slide of hand, magicians, but you can’t have a counterfeit unless you have the real thing. My guest Randy Clark, has traveled all over the world and see, Randy I don’t want to put words in your mouth but I believe that you have either seen or heard about every miracles that we read about in the days that Jesus walked in the flesh.

RANDY: Yes.

SID: And tell me about that day that you were just thinking about how blessed you were that you are not one of these varieties of religious people that think that miracles are from the past or they’ve stopped or, but you believe in miracles and your so grateful to God that you believe in miracles and God spoke to you. What did He say?

RANDY: So what.

SID: Did He really talk like that to you?

RANDY: Yeah and so what shocked me. I was sitting at the desk and I was the pastor of a Baptist church sitting in the office and I said God I’m glad I’m not a liberal, I believe that you did supernatural things, I’m glad that I’m not the sensationalist that believes that you stopped doing this, I believe you still do. And I was waiting for a well done good and faithful servant, proud of you son and what I heard real clear was, so what. It so shocked me that I said what do you mean, so what? And then the next thing that was so clear, He said, you might as well be a liberal of a sensationalist to say that you believe in these things but you don’t know how to move in them.

SID: Now, what did you do with a word like this? Did you say, so what? Or did you do something?

RANDY: I went out and I bought hundreds of dollars worth of books and I started to go to conferences where I could start learning everything from the Pentecostal to Charismatic Catholic theologians. I was reading everything I could to try to learn how to flow in the gifts of the spirit, particularly the word of knowledge and healing and prophecy is what I particularly trying to learn.

SID: Now when I think of you, I think of someone that hears a word from God, says it with your mouth and then all over the audience people are instantly healed. There was a conversation that you on the telephone which a light bulb went on in which it’s called words of knowledge from not your brain but from God about what He has already done and by stating it out loud it gives someone the faith to reach into the invisible world but you had a conversation on the telephone, tell me about that.

RANDY: Well I found out that there was a church called the Vineyard at that time and they were really amongst the best at training people, equipping them to learn how to flow in the gifts of the spirit. So I called that church And there was another guy that had just been kicked out of another denomination because he had been a pastor and he started moving in the gifts of the spirit, and he got kicked out and so he was doing an internship there and he said, so you believe in words of knowledge and I said, yeah, it’s found in 1st Corinthians chapter 12 verse 8, and he said well it’s good that you know the address but do you know how to move in it? I said, no and he said let me tell you, based on just the sociological study with people that we’ve interviewed that flow in that gift, we have found that you can feel a pain that is not yours, you can have an impression of a name of a disease that may come to your mind, you can see actually an organ of the body, you can see how somebody was injured, like a day dream type thing going on in your mind.

SID: Could you picture if a medical doctor had this type of gifting rather than this multiple guess?

RANDY: Yeah, and we’ve had quite a few doctors go with us over seas. They love ministering to people in the natural medical arts but they want to add to that and we’ve had numbers of doctors go with us, and research scientist and stuff.

SID: Tell me the very, so this fellow, you have a telephone conversation and its like light bulbs go on, oh is that what’s going on? Tell me the first time that you had this word of knowledge and you spoke it out and you saw results.

RANDY: We were praying for somebody at a distance, we weren’t with them and while we were praying for this person at a distance which is if what churches do pray for the sick, that is what they do, they just pray at home or while they’re at home they pray at the church for them. And when I was doing that I had a slight pain, not a slight pain but a quick pain for a split second in my eye and I was scared that it wasn’t God or I didn’t know if it was God or not. Could this be what that guy just told me about 4 days earlier? So it was on a Sunday night and I went to the pulpit and said I think there may be somebody here who might have something possibly wrong with their eye.

SID: Just trying to protect yourself.

RANDY: Yeah and then somebody stood up and said that’s me, I have tunnel vision and she was 67 years old and was losing sight in that tunnel vision and then I realized, oh my gosh, I got the cart before the horse because I know how to get the words of knowledge but we had to have a team to come in to teach us to pray for the sick. I don’t know how to pray for the sick. And so I got a word of wisdom then and I felt like ok, come up here and I want everybody in the church to come up here. And I thought if this doesn’t work they are now going to blame me by myself, we’ll all share the blame. So I said everybody, we’re all going to pray for you. And we prayed for her and to make a long story short, she was healed. Her eye opened up, she didn’t have tunnel vision any more and that was the very first word I ever had.

SID: you know what I notice is that sometimes these words expand and people know things about people, like it’s not just that someone has a pain in the eye, you were in a car accident 4 years ago and when they get that specific they can reach into that invisible world. Well let me tell you what happened to Randy. This gift started increasing but then all of the sudden it seemed to, nothing was going on in his life and he said I’ve got to get real serious with God and he went to a meeting and there was an out pouring of Gods presence that totally changed his destiny, his life, and now not only do miracles happen when he speaks, but other people then start operating in the same gifting. Don’t go away. We’ll be right back after this word.

SID: Hello, Sid Roth here with Aviad Cohen, and Aviad was known as 50 Shekel. And it swept the Jewish world, the non-Jewish world. When you were in Hollywood, you were actually invited to a Bible study. And this was kind of a new experience for you. What were your observations?

AVIAD: I was actually in Beverly Hills, and very nice people actually. Christians. I don’t think I really understood what Christians were, I just knew they believed in Jesus. Interesting Bible study. This was actually before I was 50 Shekel. And it was interesting because they were talking about all this scripture, but it completely flew over my head.

SID: Of course.

AVIAD: Completely flew over my head. Even if they talked about things in the Old Covenant, in the Tanach, in the Hebrew scriptures… These were Hebrew scriptures.

SID: You didn’t know from borsht.

AVIAD: No, not at all. Not at all. But then I’m Jewish, shouldn’t I know?

SID: Yeah, you should, but you don’t.

AVIAD: Exactly. Without Jesus, how would I? So they asked me, “Would you like to accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior?” And I was like “I don’t even know the Guy. I’m not going to do this.” The thing is, I just wished they would’ve shared with me the Hebraic roots of my Messiah, that they would’ve said “Hey, Jesus’ real name is Yeshua, ok. He’s the true Jew Messiah as prophesied in the Old Covenant. Read Isaiah 53, Zechariah 12:10. Check out Jeremiah 31:31. It talks about a New Covenant that God would make with His people, because they broke the Old Covenant.” So any Jew who hasn’t accepted Yeshua is under, it’s like an Old Covenant, it’s like a broken car – it don’t work.

SID: Ha! Ok, but they didn’t do that, you did not say “I believe in Jesus.” You thought they were a little mashuga, between you and me, a little crazy.

AVIAD: A little mashuga.

SID: Ok, so you’re back in New York, you’re saying “I want to identify even more. I want to be part of the orthodox Jewish community, I want to go to the Torah studies.” And one particular Shabbat, Sabbath, you went to a Torah study. Tell me about your recollection of that.

AVIAD: Actually I was staying at a rabbi’s house for the Shabbat; Friday and Saturday.
So Friday, we have a meal, go to shule, have a meal, go to sleep. Shabbat, Saturday, go to shule, come back to the rabbi’s house, have a meal. By the time I came back after the meal, I was all liturgied out, because there’s so much liturgy. All I was doing was “davon this, davon that.” You’ve got to do this before you davon that, before you go to sleep you’ve got to davon that, davon this, davon that, davon, davon, davon…

SID: Davon means to pray.

AVIAD: Yeah. And I can’t do this. I was like “Is this what it means to be a Jew? Is this what I’m supposed to do?” I didn’t even know what the term “liturgy” was at that point.
Now I do. And I was like “What is this?” And honestly, there were people all in the house, and I just broke down crying, I’m like “God! God!” Before actually, I told these guys, “This is too much for me. I can’t do this. I can’t do any of this liturgy. This is too much for me to do. This cannot be what we’re supposed to be doing.” And I started crying. I just cried and cried. And then I just went to the rabbi, I told the rabbi “I’m leaving. I can’t do this anymore.” He was like “You know something? You can’t leave.
You have to stay here.” I’m like “Why?” He was like “If you want to leave, you leave after Shabbat.” I was like “You’re keeping me against my will?” He was like “You stay here until Shabbat’s over.” I was kind of kidnapped; you know what I’m saying.

SID: He didn’t want you to walk or carry anything.

AVIAD: Yeah, to break his Sabbath. But you know something? Let me tell you something. We live in the United States of America, ok, and you can’t keep somebody, you can’t force somebody to stay at your house. It doesn’t matter. That’s religion. I wanted the truth.

SID: So what happened? What happened?

AVIAD: And that’s why I was crying in the rabbi’s kid’s room by myself with a box of tissues. I had my feet on the floor, like on the inside, just crying, crying out to God, “God please, please help me. Please show me the truth. Show me Your truth. This cannot be of You. This cannot be of You!” And I just had tons of tissues. And you know something? I have to reach out so much, I have to get to the point where I’m just like that’s it. Because all I want to do is be a nice Jewish boy, in that sense. I just wanted to fulfill that. I’m a Jew. I’m chosen. What am I chosen for? And so, I just cried so much. I’d never cried like that my entire life. Never, ever have I cried like that. And in order for you to get God’s attention sometimes, you have to be so desperate that you cry out to Him and you tell Him “I want to know You now!”

SID: Ok. The scriptures say, Jeremiah says “In the day that you seek God with all of your heart, in that day He’ll be found.” That’s where Aviad is headed. Don’t go away, we’ll be right back after this word.

SID: Hello, Sid Roth here with Charles Ndifon, and Charles, before we get to that amazing thing that happened in a prison in Mongolia, I think it’s outrageously amazing, God’s been speaking to you about what’s happening right now.

CHARLES: There are people being healed right now. There are marvelous things taking place. There is someone that had a stroke, a paralysis, healed. The right side is paralyzed; you had a stroke on the left side of your brain. Instantly you’re feeling a warmth going through your body, God is healing you right now. But there’s another person that has what is called acid reflux that’s being healed right now. Another person with crone’s is being healed in your intestine, and God is just healing you completely. You go back and eat something and see what God is doing. There is someone that I see, you’ve had paralysis. It’s been caused by connective tissue disease. God is healing you right now. I want you to get up from that wheelchair you’ve been in and your body will completely recover right now. There’s also a man, I see you, you have almost like a brain shunt. God is healing that person right now. Somebody with scoliosis is being healed right now. Straighten out your back, you’ll find out that lump in your back has just disappeared. Wonderful things are taking place.

SID: Charles, what you have to understand also, is if he did not mention your situation, I know this: I know that there is a flow, a river if you will, of healing coming out of your television set or your computer, or however you’re looking at this right now. And it’s so good to be in God’s presence. It’s so refreshing. You see, wherever this river goes, there is life. Mongolia – what happened?

CHARLES: It was amazing. We had the miracle campaign in the stadium during the day, and this particular day we took a break. And I was told we should go to the maximum security prison in Mongolia. And we were told that’s where the hard core people are, they had gangs within the place. We went in there kind of dressed down, but noticed that they were kind of snickering, like “Who are you? What are you coming here to do?” And I thought, wow, bring the big gun. I told them “I want you to bring five people here. If Jesus does not heal them, then don’t listen to us, we are false prophets. You can just do your own activities. Bring them here. If God does not heal them, we’re false prophets.” You know, the people in the gang, they knew people in prison, so they kind of brought…

SID: The toughest cases.

CHARLES: The toughest cases.

SID: Now what if God didn’t come through?

CHARLES: Oh, God always comes through. It’s always the case.

SID: Always?

CHARLES: Always the case. He never fails. He always…

SID: You know, some countries in Africa, if you do that and God doesn’t come through, you’ll be a dead man. You do know that?

CHARLES: Oh, I know that. You see, the Bible declares those that know their God will be strong and do mighty exploits. You know, I believe what God says in His word. It cannot change.

SID: So what happened in these prisons?

CHARLES: So they brought a man, totally deaf, and they kind of pushed him to the front. It was kind of interesting. I said “Ok.” They brought another one, paralyzed in one side. They brought another one, he was partially blind. And they brought another one, he had some internal things that caused a condition on the outside. And one after another, I just said to them “This is the message I bring to you, that what I say is the truth, and we can prove it; that Jesus is alive today. If He is not alive, He could not do this miracle. The proof is in the miracles He does. Without the miracles, don’t believe us.” And so, the people were listening to us. The first man – now, I just touched his ears, I said “Come out of him!” Instantly the hearing opened. I mean you could see the attention of the people in the prison. It got their attention immediately. And then the second person, who was paralyzed, I just pointed at him, I said “Stand up.” He just stood up, as if he wasn’t paralyzed. There was no thunder and lightning, it was just the power of God came upon them. They were healed. Then the next one, then the next one. By the time we got to the fifth one, you’d have seen the atmosphere change. You couldn’t tell which gang was what, they all rushed to the front. And I said “How many of you want this Jesus that just healed those people?” All the hands were up. They were so amazed at the miracles. And shortly after that, we gave them bibles. It was amazing to see the miracles. And I told them, “This is the proof that what we have to say is the truth. I didn’t come here to give you another religion, I came with life to Mongolia. This is what the people need, God’s life coming to Mongolians.”

SID: Alright, let me ask you a question. You were a young man in Nigeria, and you heard a man that has probably seen more miracles, led more people to the Lord, T.L. Osborn. And T.L. Osborn came to bring the miracle anointing to your country. But God spoke to you when he was speaking about what you were supposed to do. What did He tell you?

CHARLES: It was a conference we attended with 10,000 people there, I was just one of the people in the crowd. And T.L. Osborn made a statement while he was there. He said “God has sent me to Nigeria and to Africa to show you that the gospel really works.” At that moment, the Holy Spirit spoke to me very clearly. He said “Go to America and show them the gospel works.” Because I realized, later on, that people always say it only works in Africa, or only in Asia, but not in America. And I said “Lord, but they have all the great preachers from America.” And the Lord said to me “They haven’t seen one like you. Go.” When I came here, I thought they were going to roll out the red carpet for me. “Oh, here comes God’s man.”

SID: Right, especially God sending you.

CHARLES: No one even knew I existed. But this is what happened when I came: Out on the street, the miracles began to happen. The word got around in this little town in Pennsylvania. Immediately, people began to come. “There’s this guy from Africa, he just spoke to a crippled man and he can walk.” The word got around, that’s how it began when I came here. And the proof was the miracles, when they saw the miracles. Just like the Bible says, “They followed Him because they saw the miracles which He did on those that were sick.” And it just never changed.

SID: Charles, the presence of God is so strong right now, it’s a power. It’s not your normal healing anointing at this moment, it’s a power. Will you pray for people right now?

CHARLES: I will. I want those that are sick, it doesn’t matter what the sickness is, I want you to know that the Bible says that He healed them all. No matter the sickness, no matter the disease, it doesn’t matter who you are. If you can only believe all things are possible right now, I want you to know that God wants you free. Only Satan wants you sick. While I’m speaking to you, whatever condition it is, I want you to take your eyes off of that condition, and look to Jesus, the One who heals. And when you do that, I want you to touch that area of your body where you have the most pain or symptom. Just place your hand there, then stretch your hand towards me, towards the television, right now. As I’m speaking, that sickness will leave your body. Right now, I rebuke every sickness, every disease, every blood condition, every cancer, every tumor. Blind spirit, I command you now, loose them in Jesus’ name! I come against every weakness in the legs, back pain, whatever it is now, go in the name of Jesus! Deaf spirit, you come out of them now in the name of Jesus. I rebuke that condition of HIV. Be healed now in Jesus’ name. Every other sickness, I speak life to their bodies. You spirit of infirmity, in the name of Jesus loose the people and let them go, in Jesus’ name. And I want to encourage you, whatever you could not do, I want you to do it immediately. If you were blind, open your eyes and see what God has done. If you were deaf, let somebody speak to you, or, you can have someone test your hearing right now. If you were crippled, get off that wheelchair, get off that bed you’ve been in. Arise and walk in the name of Jesus.
Whatever your condition is. If you could not move your legs, move your legs right now. God’s healing you. If you have tumors and cancers, I want you to check that part of your body again and see what God is doing. There’s power that’s coming to you right now. That cancer, that tumor, is destroyed from it’s very roots. That spirit of cancer can’t stay in your body from today. Don’t expect it to come back soon. You go back to your doctor and get a good report and let us know what God is doing. Miracles are taking place everywhere right now. There are people getting healed. I see so many people getting healed of AIDS right now. You fell like a heat is going through your body. There are people right now, tumors are disappearing, people that were blind are seeing right now, people that have pain in the knees just being healed. Missing parts – I see someone with missing cartilage is having a new one right now. There’s someone with a kidney condition that’s being healed right now. You’re on dialysis, and you can see lumps in your hands from the dialysis. Right now, the kidney is beginning to function again. In about half an hour, you’ll be using the bathroom to prove to you that God has healed you. And I see somebody also, you’re on dialysis, the lumps you had are disappearing right now.

SID: And let me tell you something. I can tell the difference in the anointing. This is power! It’s raw power in Jesus’ name.

SID: Sid Roth here with Charles Ndifon, and I am so intrigued with this encounter you had with Jesus in 1987. Tell me what you saw when you looked in His eyes.

CHARLES: Well what I saw was absolutely amazing, to know that He doesn’t condemn anybody. I was very surprised at what happened when He looked at me, and when He said to me “Preach the gospel. Don’t argue it. Announce the good things that I’ve done. And as I was with those in the past, so will I be with you. If the people will believe the good things you tell them of what I’ve done for them, nothing will be able to stand against you.” And then He said again, “Preach the gospel.”

SID: Now when He walked… Did He walk into you or through you? What happened?

CHARLES: That’s the next thing that happened. What happened was, at that moment, all the thoughts that were going through my mind is either I’m in heaven, I’m dead, or something. Everything paled where I was. I didn’t see any other person that was in that auditorium, I didn’t see anything else, I just saw Jesus. There was just a glory that was around Him. Everything faded in His presence. And then, He did something unusual, He just walked right into me, and I fell like a dead man. I was there for hours. I wasn’t aware I’d been there. When I got up, I realized I’d been drenched in my own tears. What was happening when He came, I felt like my whole body was about to explode. It’s like having something cooked in a microwave, feeling it’s about to explode – that’s how I felt.

I thought “I’m dying, I’m dying.” And peace just came over me as I was on the ground there. That encounter changed me. When I got up, I knew that the Jesus I proclaimed was not dead, He was indeed alive. Shortly after that, I went on doing ministry, I saw a remarkable change. There was a boldness and a clarity to what I was saying. I knew the One I proclaimed was indeed alive, and proved it with miracles.

SID: Now you operate, many times, with what is known as words of knowledge. You know things, like you did in the last segment, you know things about people. But I want to find out what happened when you went into a hospital in the dying – in the dying – ward. I mean, it’s the last stop before they die. What happened?

CHARLES: It was interesting what happened. We went over there, and we would do this every Sunday, we’d go after service and minister to the people. Well, when I walked in there, this was the male medical ward, and it says “Terminal.” That’s where the terminal patients were left to die. Normally in Nigeria, you have 20 people in a long room, 10 on one side, you have a nursing stating in the front, and you come in there and say what patient you want to see. So knowing that we came from the campus, it was interesting what happened. I walked in to the middle, there was a young man there, basically dying. He’d been there for months. And all I said to him was “I come from God with good news.

God sent me to you. Would you like to go home today? How would you like to be healed?” That was the message he’d been waiting for. The world is hurting; they want good news of what Jesus has done.

SID: Well was anyone listening to you, besides that person?

CHARLES: No, it was just a normal conversation, just like us sitting here. So now, this is the interesting thing that happened. When I spoke to him, I said “I come from God with good news,” and I talked to him. Three minutes later, I said “Listen, would you like to be well?” He said “Yes.” And he prayed a simple prayer, received life, received Jesus into his heart. This is what happened: I just held him by his hand, I said “Get up and walk.”

Instantly, every trace of his condition left him. When he got up, then everyone else, their attention was…

SID: Obviously.

CHARLES: I mean it just changed everything in the place, and this is was happened: This young man began to scream, and then the next person said “Help me too. Help me please.” I turned around and I said “Would you like to be healed also?” He said “Yes.” I touched him, and I said “Get up in the name of Jesus.” The moment I touched him, life came to his body and instantly, he was healed. There was a young man, for three months had not been able to eat. He’d been on IV for such a long time, and basically, they were waiting for him to just waste away and die. And when I touched him and said “Get up in the name of Jesus,” instantly, he said he felt something go through his whole body. And when he stood up – he had not eaten for three months – he asked for a bowl of rice. He called his mother, he said “Momma, get me something to eat.” He ate three bowls of rice.

There was another man, across the aisle. As people were getting healed, there was such excitement in the place that people were doing calisthenics; they were kicking themselves, doing all kinds of things. It was so exciting. Now, there was another gentleman, he was in some contraptions. Some young men had attacked him with some clubs, robbed him, beat his head in, and this happened to him. He was in these contraptions, and I could hear him faintly calling out “Please help me, please help me.”

He was paralyzed, and he said, to me the moment I grabbed him, I said “Do you want to be healed?” And he said “Yes.” And as I started lifting him up, he felt something left his body and stayed on the bed while he got up. And that thing left instantly, the spirit left his body – the spirit that held him in paralysis left his body – and instantly, he was freed. He took the rest of the contraption off and started running. That place went crazy. Every one of those people were instantly healed.

SID: How many people?

CHARLES: 20 of them, in less than half an hour.

SID: Did you hear that? This is the dying ward. Every one, 20, were instantly healed.
What happens when Charles walks in to one of the worst prisons in the world? Don’t go away. And I’m going to have him start praying in this next segment. Be right back.

SID: Welcome to my world, where it’s naturally supernatural. My name is Sid Roth and I’m with Charles Ndifon from Nigeria. Now I had the opportunity of meeting Charles in person before this television show, and as a result of the time we spent together, I am telling you there will be more manifestations of miracles than have ever happened in the history of this telecast, and that’s saying a lot. One of the things, Charles, that I noticed is that there is a presence of a healing anointing like a river that is all around you. It is almost as if you do not have to put your hand on someone for them to be healed. By just being in your presence… Is this what occurs?

CHARLES: We found out, quite amazing, a lot of the meetings we’ve had around different parts of the world, that seemed to be the case. We were in Iceland. I just walked into the auditorium and people started getting healed. It’s the presence of Jesus. Wherever we go, we discover His presence changes the lives of people.

SID: Ok, something happened to you in 1987 which you guys from Nigeria, you have such wonderful childlike faith. And that’s actually one of the requirements; the Messiah said we must be like a little child to even enter the kingdom of heaven. But something happened to you, very highly unusual in 1987. Tell me about that.

CHARLES: What actually happened was, I was very hungry. I was studying mechanical engineering as a student. I was very curious. I wanted the real thing, I didn’t want anything that’s not real. And what I said was, I read the scriptures that say “If anyone loves Me, My Father and I will come and manifest Ourselves to him.” When I read that, I said “Jesus, I love You. Show Yourself to me.” And for a whole week, I’d been going through the word of God and reading it, it was amazing. I discovered He’s alive. I had four visions that really changed my life…

SID: What do you mean, you discovered He’s alive? You were a born again believer. How could you have been a born again believer, and then all of a sudden say I’ve discovered He’s alive? I’m not understanding.

CHARLES: This is what happened. There’s one thing about reading about a person, and getting to meet the person. And what happened to me is I got to meet Jesus. Paul made a statement, he said “He appeared to many people, and He appeared to me many years after He had been risen from the dead. And it seemed too far fetched,” Paul said, “it was almost impossible for that to happen, but He appeared to me too.” And I can say the same thing. I said “Jesus, if You’re real, make Yourself real to me.” And we were there…

SID: Did you really expect Him to?
CHARLES: I did.

SID: You did, ok. Go ahead.

CHARLES: I expected Him to because I knew He couldn’t fail, He couldn’t break what He had said. His word is true. So what happened was, we were in the campus center, we were being commissioned to go into the world…

SID: Excuse me, you know people are being healed right now as we’re talking?

CHARLES: I know.

SID: Do you know that there are people… What I heard is someone with a pain in their neck; I don’t know if it’s whiplash or what, all that pain is gone. But I want to hear what happened to you in 1987!

CHARLES: It’s amazing. In fact, when we started speaking before we started this program off today, I realized so many miracles were already taking place. There is somebody with a brain tumor that’s just been healed. I saw another person blind in the left eye, wearing a red shirt, just instantly healed. Their eyes just opened up. It’s marvelous what’s already taking place. It’s marvelous. So back to what happened, I was very hungry for His presence, because the scripture says “Anyone who believes in Me, what I do, they’ll do also. And if you love Me, My Father will manifest Himself to you.” And so what happened was, we’re in the campus center, hands are being laid on us commissioning us to go to the world. It was a normal day, 3 o’clock in the afternoon.

I really wasn’t expecting it was going to be that day, it was just a normal day. We had students there. And the gentleman laid hands on me and went to the next person. When he did that, Jesus appeared to me just as you are sitting here. I was not sleeping, I was not dreaming. It’s amazing how He can appear to you and people don’t see Him. It’s amazing, like Paul said. He talked about his experience. In fact, there might be people watching this that will be experiencing the same thing: Jesus showing up, appearing to them,
showing Himself that He’s alive. It says that He showed Himself alive by many infallible proofs. He showed Himself after His passion. And the same thing happened. So He showed Himself alive, just as you are there. The first thought that came to my mind was, either I’m dead… I felt so unclean. I said “Oh Lord, what’s going on? What’s going on? Whatever I’ve done, I really am sorry. I repent of everything over and over again.” I could not contain His presence. It was amazing. But what I realized was He looked right through me and never condemned me. His eyes were so full of love.

SID: What you witnessed was what the Bible talks about as perfect love.

CHARLES: Exactly.

SID: Unconditional, pure…

CHARLES: Somebody calls it liquid love, you can feel it. Exactly what happened to me.
He never condemned me. He just looked at me and all He said was “Announce the good news. Preach the gospel. As I was with those in the past, so will I be with you. If the people can believe the message you give them, no sickness, no disease will be able to stand against you.

SID: Let’s look at a man that, for ten years, was confined to a wheelchair in Zimbabwe;
what happened when he was in the presence of Charles.

Get up and walk. Get up and walk!
Walk! Walk!
(applause & praise)
Walk! Walk! Walk!
Turn around.
(applause & praise)
Glory! Glory! Glory!
Hallelujah! Hallelujah!
(applause & praise)

On It’s Supernatural: Wherever this man goes, unusual things happen to people as supernatural waves of God’s glory fill the room.

Do angels exist? Are healing miracles real? Is there life after death? Can people get supernatural help from another dimension? Has the future been written in advance? Sid Roth has spent 25 years investigating the strange world of the supernatural. Join Sid on this edition of It’s Supernatural.

SID: Welcome to my world, where it’s naturally supernatural. I’m Sid Roth, and I have a guest that has had such an encounter with the Living God that, literally, when he speaks, waves of God’s presence just come on the congregation. And when God’s presence comes upon you, as I believe it’s going to come upon you as you’re watching, the body just doesn’t know how to react. Let’s take a look at what happens.

(wave and water sounds)

PETER: Woo!

Ha ha!

And so Jesus stands up,

and He says, in a loud voice…

Somebody say “Loud voice.”

“Is anybody thirsty?”

(cheering)

Thank you Lord! Ha ha!

Rivers of living water!

(waves and water sounds)

“Then let him come to Me and drink.”

And drink, and drink, and drink…

He didn’t say “Come to Me and think…”

and think, and think, and think… Thank You, Lord!

Rivers of living water!

I love water! Ha ha!

He sends rivers!

Woo!

There’s only one name that’s able to save

people from their sin!

Whoa. Whoa. Whoa!

SID: I’m Sid Roth here with Peter Jackson, and Peter, what is going on with those people? What is going on with you? I think we have to go kind of back to the beginning. You had a nice alcoholic father who manufactured a nice alcoholic son. And you went to an AA meeting, and you’re not particularly a believer in Christianity, the Bible, or anything like that. And someone has a little conversation with you. What did he say to you?

PETER: He just basically said “You know God, but you don’t know Jesus. And you need to know Jesus in order to know God. Why don’t you just ask God to show you His Son?”

SID: Well in AA they say “higher power”, but this guy was taking it to the next step.

PETER: Yeah, he’d become a believer about three years before, and I had really seen a big difference in him.

SID: So what did you do?

PETER: That night, we were up all night as he was sharing his story with me. And that night, about 5:30 in the morning, I got home.  My wife was sleeping, and I was brushing my teeth getting ready to go to work. And I just felt “I can’t put this off. I need to ask God if Jesus is real.” And as I did that, the glory of God just came into my bathroom, and I fell on the floor, and I was…

SID: Why’d you fall?

PETER: Oh, I was just completely overcome. The weight of His presence, it was powerful.

And so I was lying on the floor, just sort of laughing in joy but also crying in repentance. I was kind of going back and forth. I didn’t know what was happening to me, was I having a nervous breakdown, or what’s going on.

SID: Sure. I mean when the presence of God comes on you, it’s like nothing you’ve ever had before. You have no world view, no point of reference.

PETER: Yeah. So I’m going sort of back and forth with repentance and joy at the same time. About half an hour into this, I could get up again, and I go into the bedroom to wake up my wife to tell her what’s happened, and I said “Honey, Jesus is in the bathroom!” (laughing)

SID: Oh, that’s a nice way to put it! So how did she react?

PETER: She thought I was on drugs or something.

SID: Sure. I feel you think that too right now!

PETER: But the truth was I… It just didn’t wear off.  I was full of joy for several days after that.

SID: But what about the addiction?

PETER: Yeah, it was broken right there.

SID: Ok. You have this encounter with God, and it was a marvelous encounter with God, but there was still something missing. And you went to a cabin and you had a revelation which has profoundly changed your life.

PETER: Yeah, that was 1978 when I came to know Jesus as my Savior. But then five years later, I was working through a lot of bitterness towards my earthly father, who I had kind of blocked out of my mind. And I started to read the Bible, especially John 14 through 17, where Jesus refers to the Father, especially John 14:6, “I am the way, the truth, and the life, and no one comes to the Father except through Me.” And when I saw that word “Father”, it just jumped off the page, and I realized that I didn’t see God as a Father, I saw Him as a Savior, but I didn’t see Him as a Father. That began to bring up a lot of hurt and bitterness that I still had from years of living with an alcoholic father.

SID: In other words, what you’re saying is that he related to God as he related to his earthly father, as opposed to relating to pure love. He didn’t understand. Many of you don’t. You think you do, but you really don’t. Don’t go away, we’ll be right back.

SID: Sid Roth here with Diane Nutt, and I am overwhelmed, and I told you this on the telephone Diane. When I talked to you on the telephone, this is the first time we’ve met in person, I can fell the presence of God. I bet it was the same way when you were a child, and it’s come back now that the drugs are a thing of the past. In fact, you really feel compassion for people. There was this woman with all sorts of turmoil inside, and depression. Tell me about her.

DIANE: Yes Sid. She was filled with resentment and self-hatred and anger. And as I prayed for her, the Lord began to draw out the pain out of her.

SID: Could you feel it coming out?

DIANE: Yes I can. And it’s hard to describe, but you can just feel the pain. And Jesus felt all of the pain that any of us would ever, ever experience in life. And so that’s not an unusual thing to do, because when you’re moving in compassion and in the love of God, we should be feeling the pain of other people.  But you have to release it to the Lord. And so, as the pain was being taken out of her body, the joy of the Lord came into her, and she began to laugh, and just laugh and laugh, and got up and stood there, and she was so overcome by the presence of God. And then God healed her ear. She was partially deaf in her ear, and God opened up her ear totally, and she just began to leap and shout. And I was whispering to her, just barely whispering, and she could hear. Not even speaking into the mic, and she could hear me. Every time I asked her, I said

“Can you hear me speaking?” and I was whispering it so softly, and she’d say “Yes!” And I asked her three times, and every time she got more and more of the joy of the Lord, just filled her. And so God not only healed her heart, but He healed her physical body as well. And a lot of times, the physical healings in our life come when the healing in our heart has taken place.

SID: Now this drawing to people, you tell me sometimes it like spotlighted, and you even know the place they’re supposed to stand. Tell me about that.

DIANE: Yes, well in our services, the Lord will begin to spotlight people, and I’ll just ask them to move out. Sometimes it’s just to stand out in the aisle. And the power of God will just take over them, and they’ll begin to shake and fall under the power of God. And sometimes the Lord will have me bring them up to the alter area, and He’ll tell me the exact spot for them to stand in.

Now I don’t know why, but He will tell me. And as soon as they stand in that one place, Sid, they begin to be overcome by the power of God. And they begin to weep, some begin to shake, there’s just different things that begin to happen as the power of God overtakes them.

SID: And sometimes the presence of God is so thick that it looks like a cloud. Tell me about that truck driver that time.

DIANE: Well, yes. I was driving down the road and I’d just been worshipping the Lord, and there was such a sweet presence of God, and His glory was so in my car. And as I’m driving down, all of a sudden a truck just totally goes to the side. Did not veer off, but totally was pushed to the side.  And I remember looking in my rearview mirror and thinking “Wow, did I just see that?” And he probably thought “What just happened to me?” because supernaturally his truck went straight over to the side of the road.

SID: Diane, I know that that same glory wants to invade the people that are watching us in their homes right now. Will you pray for them?

DIANE: Yes, yes I will. I just want to ask you right now, wherever you are, whatever you’re doing, just to yield to the Spirit of God right now, because He loves you so much. And Father God, I pray right now in Jesus’ name, Lord God touch every person where they are right now.

Lord God, touch them in their hearts Lord God, touch them in their physical bodies. Lord God, just let Your love surround them, just let Your love encapsulate them, Lord God. Just as the mountains surround Jerusalem Lord God, let Your love and let Your glory just surround them right now in Jesus’ name. And Lord God, let Your glory be manifested to every person that is watching right now, in Jesus’ name, in Jesus’ name, in Jesus’ name. Lord, yes, thank You Lord, thank You Lord. Yes, just receive, just receive that. You’re not crazy, you’re not making anything up right now, the glory of God is touching you right now and is ministering to you.

The love of God is being poured out to you right now. So just come to Him.

SID: Pray for drug addicts to be set free right now.

DIANE: Yes. In Jesus’ name, Lord God, I pray for every person that is addicted to drugs right now. Lord God, I thank You that the power of Your Holy Spirit just eradicates the desire for drug addictions, for marijuana, for alcohol; every type of addiction right now. I thank You, Lord, that it is being cursed, that the desire for those drugs is being supernaturally stopped right now in the name of Jesus.  Hallelujah. Thank You, Lord.

SID: You know, Diane, something that just keeps coming to me as we’re talking, maybe because it’s so exciting, because in my notes it said that sometimes when you pray for someone and you just explain that it’s like you’re pulling out of them in the name of Jesus all of the junk. And unfortunately we don’t have a live audience yet, but we’re going to have one soon and you’re going to be able to see. I’m the only one here. Would you pray that for me, and let’s see what happens?

DIANE: Yes, yes. Lord God, I thank You right now in Jesus’ name, Lord God I just thank You for Your anointing being released to Sid right now in the name of Jesus. Lord God, I thank You right now, Lord God, that as he stands in the gap and as he prays, Lord God, for so many, Lord God, I thank You that the pain will be removed from the hearts of people. Lord God, I thank You that peace will come to their minds Lord God. Father God, I just thank You for a release for the impartation. Mmm, thank You Jesus. Oh, thank You Lord. Thank You for Your glory Lord.

Thank You for Your love Lord. Thank You for Your anointing Lord. In Jesus’ name, in Jesus’ name.

SID: And the Bible says, “Freely you have received, freely you are to give.” And I just pray in Yeshua, that’s Hebrew for Jesus, in Yeshua’s name that the peace that is in this studio right now, this peace is the presence of God, and this peace defies fear, it defies worry, it defies pain,  it defies sickness, it defies anything that is evil. Sickness is evil. And so, I pray in the name of Yeshua that this peace, there’s no human understanding for this peace. It’s so wonderful there’s nothing that the world has to offer, compared to the peace. This world doesn’t offer peace. Things don’t offer peace.  The pleasures of this life don’t offer peace.  Only God offers peace. Not religion but God. Intimacy with God. Intimacy comes from removing the separation between you and God. That’s the sin.  The drugs, the sex, the addictions. You know what it is. Tell God you’re sorry, believe that Jesus paid the price for your sin, and make Him your Lord. Say “Jesus, help. Jesus, be my Lord.” It’s that simple. It really is.