Sid: I heard a word from God when I was interviewing Nasir Siddiki yesterday and I did not state it, so I repent because I told God I would say it, but any time I heard something, but the anointing.   Nassir when you explained how you had a condition that you were dying of as a Moslem that did not know the Messiah, and you had a visitation of the Messiah, the anointing got so strong that I heard a word.  I heard, in fact you were talking about, do you remember you were talking about the pain, how unbearable the pain was from this condition; the right side of your face and body was totally disfigured.  You had golf ball size blisters, your skin was a red as fire and I’m sure you don’t even want to think about how excruciating the pain was at that moment and when you said that, I heard the Holy Spirit say “There is someone listening to us that has a pain in their neck and their back because the Spirit of God is dealing with pain right now.”  And I believe that if anyone were to move their neck that had pain; if any one were to bend their back over they would walk right into their healing in Yeshua’s Name, in Jesus Name.  Now that I took care of my public repentance Nasir, you were very successful in business, you became a millionaire by age thirty-five; you had over a $1,000,000, you married to the woman that you worked with, Anita everything was storybook.  You went on quite a honeymoon, a two month honeymoon?

Nasir: Ha-ha-ha, yes.  I had been working for many, many years and so this was kind of making up for everything.

Sid: But the following year, the bottom fell out, what happened?

Nasir: Well, two things happened.  Number one the economy went down, and number two the company got bought out and all of a sudden from being at the very very top I ended up being at the very bottom.  We lost everything, we lost our home, we lost our cars, we lost our money.

Sid:  But wait a second, you knew the Lord.

Nasir: Yes.

Sid: Did you think about leaving about leaving the Lord, did you think maybe you made a huge mistake?  What did you think when the bottom fell out, I mean most people are great Christians when things are going good, but when things go bad, we find out what’s really going on inside of them.

Nasir: Well, here’s what happened, when I first gave my life to Christ I got hungry for the word and so I literally devoured the Bible.  I read it from cover to cover and I would constantly be in the word.

Sid: I’ve heard your teaching, and you are a word man!

Nasir: Amen, so when this thing happened I knew immediately that it was not God trying to teach me something, but we really do have an enemy called the devil and he is there to steal, kill and to destroy.  So the only anchor I had was Jesus and I would not let go of my anchor; I would not let go of standing on the word.

Sid: I have noticed, ha-ha that you have a very very tenacious faith.  But as a matter of fact if you didn’t I’m not so sure you would have had the results with your wife Anita.  So not only did the bottom fall out on you financially but your wife became pregnant which was fine, but it was at the peak of your difficulties.  Then it got compounded, what happened?

Nasir: She collapsed outside of the mall and started to have what was called catatonic seizures or grandma seizures and finally she lost her eye sight on her right eye.  Her hands twisted up on the right side, here feet twisted up and she became paralyzed.  They took her to St. Michael’s Hospital in Toronto, they put twenty-eight needles in her head, diagnosed multiple sclerosis.  Said, “That she would be a cripple for the rest of her life.  They gave me the wheelchair and the catheter there is no cure for MS and absolutely nothing we can do to help her.

Sid: Paint me a picture of what she was like in her worst physical shape.

Nasir: She was paralyzed in bed, could not move, blind, needed help all the time and slowly loosing the rest of her organs.

Sid: Oh, my goodness, and you’ve got, you don’t have any money.

Nasir: Yes.

Sid: How, and she’s pregnant?  Oh my goodness.  How did you cope?

Nasir: We had no choice but to trust in the Lord, the only thing we had was a little bit of money for Christmas presents for our two sons, so what we did was we took that money and we bought some teaching, healing, material.  In those days it was cassettes, today their CDs, because the most important thing was that my wife had to come out of this.  And we played that twenty-four hours a day.  Sid, I did not know much about the scriptures but I knew one scripture well, “Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.”  So for twenty-four hours a day, seven days week tenacity is the Word…

Sid: Okay, did you ever have the thought, “My wife will be like this forever and then die blind, paralyzed?”

Nasir: Yes, I had that thought not once but many many times, and just as much as she had to listen to the Word I had to listen to the Word because I had to get to the point where whatever the doctor’s said, whatever were the circumstances were factual but God’s word is higher than the circumstances.  His Word is higher than what the doctor’s are saying, and until I got to that point where I believed God’s Word even more than I believed what I saw.  Until we got to that point nothing would change, and as she listened to the word, twenty-four hours a day seven days a week, I couldn’t put medicine in her because there was no medicine, there was no cure.  All I could do was put the Word in her and the Bible calls the Word medicine to your flesh.

Sid: Well, this is interesting, you had almost an immediate physical healing, your wife’s was gradual so you’re actually learning about how the word becomes flesh.  And how long did it take for her to manifest her healing?

Nasir: It was a two year period and what was good was when we speak the word, but it’s even better when it speaks to us. Then when that word explodes on the inside of us that we know that we know, that we know that 2,000 years ago Jesus carried multiple sclerosis, you carried cancer and every single sickness and every disease and when that explodes on the inside of us all of a sudden we realize why are we carrying something that Jesus already took on our behalf.  And over a two year period she started to get a little bit better and a little bit better and a little bit better and finally over two years every symptom of multiple sclerosis disappeared.  Her eyesight came back; her feeling on the right side of her body came back.  Her hands and her feet were completely healed.  And she was totally, completely restored.

Sid: What about that little baby, she was pregnant?

Nasir: That baby came out when she was going through this, the baby was doing fine and the funny thing is this after she got healed the doctor said, “MS is going to be with you for the rest of your life, you can never get pregnant again.”  Jesus said, “Get pregnant, show them that I have healed you.”  Well, she got pregnant and that baby is about to turn sixteen years old.

Sid: Now, you know what happened to you by hearing the word 24 x 7; you were forced to because your wife had to.

Nasir: Yes.

Sid: So both of you were learning, your faith developed.  Did you reach a point where you were sure she had been healed?

Nasir: Yes, the healing manifest not when we see the pain go away, that’s not when we receive our healing.  We receive our healing when we actually believe the word and release our faith.  Now we can no longer be moved by what we see now, we either have that anointing in us and everyday it is causing us to be restored.

Sid: Okay, you have six CD’s that we’re making available this week called “How to Receive and How to Keep Your Healing.”   What type of feedback do you get when people go through a seminar you teach or listen to these six CD’s?

Nasir: First of all they realize that Jesus already took their sickness.  Number two they realize how to appropriate their healing, and then number three they realize not only how to get healed but stayed healed.  We’ve had tremendous number of testimonies coming in.

Sid: You and I have discussed that in like the Kathryn Kulman Ministry and many other ministries today lots of people get healed, but for some reason as time goes by they lose their healing.  And I don’t hear anyone teaching on not only are you suppose to be healed but you’re not suppose to lose your healing.

Nasir:  That’s right.

Sid: In fact percentage wise numbers of people lose their healing.  In your opinion can anyone that has repented of their sins and walking with the Lord be healed today of anything?

Nasir:  Yes, the Bible clearly says that Jesus carried every sickness and every disease and the word every means He did not leave one out.  So yes, we can definitely get healed and the anointing heals people.

Sid: You know I’m reminded of a young man that many years ago he came to my office and he said, “God healed my eye sight, I don’t need glasses anymore.”  And then a few days later he came to my office and he said, “I need glasses, what happened?”  I didn’t have an answer for him.

Sid: I recently got a hold of CDs from John Paul Jackson on the Perfect Storm.  And I am so excited about the revelation that he has because we’re about ready to experience so much glory where ever we go that we will be walking like the Prophet Samuel where not one of his words fell to the ground.  And speaking about a word falling the ground without it coming to pass, I have John Paul Jackson on the telephone and the last time you were on my show you prophesied about Netanyahu, do you remember that?

John Paul: I do remember that, you kind of dragged it out of me.  Ha, ha, ha.

Sid: That’s right, you didn’t want to say it as I recall, but we pulled it out of you and repeat your prophecy.

John Paul: Well, that Netanyahu would become the next Prime Minister. But that it would be during a very very difficult time in the nation of Israel.  And that he was, he was brought, would be brought into power for that particular time frame; and that God had designed him in order to make the difficult choices that he was going to have to make.

Sid: And boy is he involved in it right now.  Just out of curiosity has God shown you anything new about Israel?

John Paul: Well, yes and I’m very very concerned about the push on Netanyahu and the pressure that is being put upon him right now.  Not only within the governmental structure of the Knesset and the structure of Israel itself but even more so what is happening here in the United States under the current administration that is really, really trying to force Israel to give back land to the Palestinians and then at the same time establish a coexistent state in the land of Israel.

Sid: John Paul just so that our listeners will understand a bit about you, when you were thirteen years of age you had encephalitis and you literally died for forty minutes, you were brain dead.  But your mother who had received a vision when you were born started crying out to God and you literally were above your body.  I’ve heard a lot of people say this, and you could see what your mother was doing and what she was praying; tell me about that.

John Paul: Right I was leaving my body and then I was slowly…and I was like looking through a window at myself going towards a brilliant light that was behind me.  But I was pretty captivated at what I was seeing and I saw my doctor, my mother, my father.  They were there and I was, the doctor said that I had died.  My mother began to wail and to cry out to God, saying that I have never fulfilled what God had told her.  And angel had come to her and visited her before I was conceived and told that she was going to bare a son after she had miscarried a child and that she was to call me John Paul and that I would have what the angel termed the eleventh hour ministry.  And my mother understood that to mean a kind of a end times ministry in the last days right before the returning of the Lord.

Sid: And then at age thirty you had a visitation from the Lord in which God showed you some of your future.  Tell me one thing you saw at that time.

John Paul: I saw the difficult economic times that we’re having right now.  I saw the issue of gold, the issue of the collapse of the dollar, I saw that at that particular time, when I was thirty years of age.

Sid: What was the issue of gold that you saw?

John Paul: The issue of gold was that gold would be $2,000 an ounce.

Sid: My goodness I better run out and buy some, forget this interview, no, I’m just teasing!  And I remember you talking about the vision you saw of the Challenger blowing up.

John Paul: Right, I drew that out and called NASA and tried to warn them about the issue and they informed that they had thousands of check and fail systems and that there was no problem.  Thank you very much for calling and basically they blew me off.

Sid: But the reason I’m interviewing this week is that you have a DVD called “The Coming Perfect Storm.  Now you’ve been getting the prophetic words for this for a number of years and you’ve just started speaking this out publically.  Why are you speaking it out now?

John Paul: Well, I didn’t want to, I had spoken bits and pieces of it out as I got it over the years and then the Lord started giving me more and He began to tell me that it was time for me to tell this.  And the response that I got from many in the church when I would periodically start to tell some of these things, they wanted to hear peace and safety, they didn’t want to hear that things were going to become difficult and so I tried to avoid it.  But the Lord began to deal with my heart and began to deal with me personally in saying, “This is what you were born to do, I want you to do this.”  So I began to do this about two years ago, I began to talk about what was coming and the various places and then as last year, 2008 came I began to escalate the amount that I would talk about it as the Lord began to move upon me.  And I began to get even more, the more I would tell the more I would receive; I would have more visions, I would have more dreams, and so this continued to grow so it’s not like I gave it and that’s the end of it.  Even since I made the DVD, which will be talking about some of the things today there have been more things that the Lord has given to me.

Sid: Now why is this storm coming, what are the reasons in your opinion that this is going to occur?

John Paul: Well, the Lord actually spoke to me and told me this in a dream and he showed me his hand lifting from this nation, and in this encounter I saw the hand of the Lord lifting from the nation and the higher the hand of the Lord came off of the nation the more darkness began to infiltrate underneath his hand.

Sid: You know I have never seen a time in my lifetime where there has been so much ungodliness in our country, blatant; it seems as though almost daily it’s getting worse.

John Paul: It is and it is going to continue and one of things the Lord showed me was that the corruption that we’ve seen so far would be nothing.  And that certainly has proved true over the last two years.  But it’s also going to prove even more true in the coming two years.

Sid: Now President Obama made a statement that a lot of Christians found controversial, he said that we are not longer a Christian nation.  I didn’t find it controversial, I found it sadly true.

John Paul: It is sadly true, that doesn’t mean we weren’t formed to be a Christian nation, that we weren’t originally purposed to be a Christian nation, but he was speaking from, I believe he was speaking from the issue of what we are practicing right now.  And I don’t believe we are practicing the level of Christianity that the Bible spells out for us to be practicing.  I believe the best the nation is practicing a lukewarm form of Christianity.

Sid: I guess lukewarm is the right word to be using, I mean it is so different than the Christianity of the Bible.  It almost seems to be, it’s sort of like Rabbinic Judaism today is so different than the Judaism of the Bible, religious Christianity today is so different than the religion of the Bible.

John Paul: It is I believe that that part of what the judgment is coming for and a lot of people really hesitate on that word judgment because there are so many different definitions of it.  But my definition of it is basically this; judgment is from God’s hand lift to the degree God’s hands lift the judgment gets more severe.  God is the only thing that is keeping this country protected or any country on the face of the earth; keeping them protected from what the evil one wants to do to them.

Sid: Well, I’m overwhelmed of the specific things and the so many different arenas that you see coming, but you also say God has given you a ten year window into the future.  And these things, many of them that you are talking about are starting to happen now, but it could take ten years for them to fully develop.  And you call it the “Perfect Storm” why?

John Paul: The Lord told me that there’s five major storm fronts that’s coming to the earth and particularly in the United States.  And those five storm fronts were the storms of religion, the storms of economics, the storms of politics, the storms of war, and the storms of geophysical events.  And as each of those storms, each of those fronts would have different elements of the storm; like you’ll see a thunderstorm coming, you’ll see rain as an element, you’ll see hail as an element, you’ll see various lightning as an element, thunder as an element and so on.  Each storm would have different elements to it and that each element would not strike the entire United States, but there would be elements that would strike various areas.  For example there may be economic woes in some areas and geophysical issues like tornadoes, pestilence, blight, in other areas.  There might be political blight in the other areas, but it’s the near proximity of the storms happening to each other that end up being like a domino effect.  One storm hits another, hits another and it compounds what happens because of the storm; the results of the storm gets compounded.

Sid: And I have to tell you Mishpochah you would think that this would breed fear when you hear of all these specific things in each of these five areas that John Paul Jackson saw that is going to happen; but when you talk about what’s going to happen to true Christians in this generation, I mean I’ll just pull one.  The glory of God in someone’s house, describe that.

John Paul: One of the things that I saw in one particular area that was plagued by food shortages was that people would pray, they would join hands around the table.  There is nothing on the table; there is nothing on the stove, there was nothing be cooked, there was nothing being prepared, there was nothing to have, they join hand and they pray and they gave thanks to the Lord for what they were about to receive and when they were finished praying there was food on the table.  And it was like the manna that was provided in the wilderness, there was food that was provided on the table and I believe that it is going to take a stronger level of faith, a stronger commitment to God, a stronger resolve on our parts; but in these things that are coming those that resolve will happen, a commitment will happen, that insight, that understanding, a relationship with the Lord will happen again.

Sid: In effect Christians will not want to be, they are going to cross over from lukewarm to red hot was where we belong anyway.

John Paul: Yes.

Sid: Oh, our time has slipped away.

SID: Hello. Sid Roth here with Ryan Wyatt, and Ryan, you teach people how to activate every one of their spiritual senses. Of all the spiritual senses that are activated within you, what is the strongest or perhaps your favorite?

RYAN: Probably the sense of sight. You know, just like we could see, hear, smell, touch and taste in the natural, we have those senses in the spiritual.

SID: So how does the spiritual sense of sight work?

RYAN: God speaks to me a lot through vision, through visions in my mind. Many people might hear the voice of God like a thought. A lot of times, I see things like for words of knowledge, for people, or for healing. A lot of times when I move in healing in a meeting, I’ll look out over the crowd and I’ll just see visions of different people being healed.

SID: Give me one real story.

RYAN: Well we had a woman in Cincinnati who was in such a severe car accident that the bones in her legs were crushed. The doctors removed the bones and put solid steel rods in her legs. She no longer had knees.

SID: That must have been painful.

RYAN: Very painful, yes. She had steel in her hips. She could not bend her knees. She had solid legs. And in the atmosphere, just beginning to move in a word of knowledge and speaking to bones, I said, do something you couldn’t do before. And she had no knees. So she tried to bend these steel rods in her legs and ended up bending her knees down to the ground. It was an absolute miracle. She felt for the pins and the bolts in her legs. You could feel with her hand. She could no longer feel them. She had kneecaps that she didn’t have before. And God, we don’t know how, but He removed the metal, gave her brand new legs, brand new bones in her legs in a flash of eye, a blink of an eye, in a moment.

SID: Is this unusual when you speak or does this happen more than once?

RYAN: Oh, it’s happened more than once. We’ve had people with twig legs, you know, paralyzed legs and had muscles…

SID: What do you mean by twig legs?

RYAN: Well there was a man who 34 years ago had a surgery on his back. They accidentally, the doctor snipped a nerve to his leg and paralyzed his leg. So now he’s in my meeting 34 years later and he’s got what’s called a twig leg. It atrophied. There’s only like three inches around. And he felt a hand press against his back, and I believe it was angels assisting in ministry, because that’s what they do. They’re there to glorify God and to help heal the sick. And his wife looked down and brand new muscle was exploding in his leg. Feeling came back. And he walked up front to testify as if he was never paralyzed.

SID: Now were his legs still what you call twig legs?

RYAN: No. The muscle grew and within just a moment his twig leg became the size of his normal leg and literally grew brand new muscle in the moment.

SID: You know, I am amazed, in awe, and I love the spiritual senses being activated. You had a friend that you gave much insight of the invisible world in Australia that had his spiritual sight activated. Explain.

RYAN: Yeah. For four months, night and day, he could see, hear, smell, touch and taste in the Spirit, and he learned so much about the spirit realm. One of the biggest things he learned, SID, is that what you think and what you feel is like communication in the spirit realm. In the natural, you know, we just talk or we have body language, or whatever. But in the spirit, thoughts and feelings are communication. And so many people think that they can shift the atmosphere around them or make the atmosphere around them better by manipulating things around them. But what he began to realize is that what you release from you empowers the atmosphere around you. So if you want to live in the presence of God, then release praise and worship to God. Have worship music.

SID: What did he see with his eyes when people were angry?

RYAN: Well he saw that thoughts were emitted like a color, a frequency and a fragrance. And for many people they were like blood in the water for sharks. You know, sharks can smell one drop of blood in the water from a long way away. So when people would think things like anger, bitterness, unforgiveness, depression, it would release a frequency, a communication in the spirit realm.

SID: Maybe that’s why Jesus said, “Fear not.”

RYAN: Yes.

SID: Because when you fear you said it’s like sharks headed towards blood in the water.

RYAN: They can smell your fear. They can smell your anger, and they can smell the issues of your heart and it empowers them, Sid, to form an atmosphere around your life that’s like a closed Heaven. And Jesus opened that.

SID: So does the reverse work when you’re worshiping God? What did he say?

RYAN: Absolutely. When you’re praising God, when you’re worshiping God, when you’re filled with joy, you’re blessing people, it empowered the Kingdom of Heaven to form an atmosphere around you. You know, Jesus said, “I want you to pray that my Kingdom would come, my will would be done on Earth as it is in Heaven.” He wants the atmosphere in your life to look like Heaven. There’s no sickness in Heaven. There’s no depression in Heaven. And when you begin to focus on the reality of God and just begin to live a lifestyle of praise and worship…

SID: Well wait a second now. The atmosphere is changing here. I believe there are people, and I’m hearing a very weird word for me. And when I hear something weird, I know it’s God. You know, it’s like out of… I’m hearing “hair”. I believe that hair is being grown on your head. Hair is coming back in Yeshua. That’s Hebrew for Jesus’ name.

RYAN: I keep seeing skin. I literally see some of you watching this and the presence of God is coming upon you right now. You’re feeling tingling on your skin. You have a skin disease, irritation of the skin and the Holy Spirit is touching you right now. I also just decree to those of you dealing with problems in your bones, you have bones that are out of alignment, herniated disks; scoliosis. Maybe you have metal in your body. Right now, we just decree to your body right now, we command bones to pop back into alignment. We command metal to dissolve, to disappear, and we just speak creative miracles. Cartilage, I see cartilage coming back into place in your body, in your joints. Some of you, I see people with fused vertebrae in different fused parts of your body and God is releasing those fuse bones and creative miracles coming right now. Hearing, right now. Hearing, right now.

SID: Stop for one second. I have to tell you. I heard “ear”. Just a moment before, the same spirit that’s speaking to you, it’s speaking to me. That’s a double witness. If you have a hearing problem or an ear problem because I saw an ear. Go ahead. Continue.

RYAN: Yeah. It’s for everybody. But I also specifically see a man, and I believe it’s your right ear and you’re having a hearing problem. Maybe you have a hearing aid. And we just speaking healing to you right now. I encourage you take that hearing aid out. Test your ear. The Holy Spirit is touching you right now in Jesus’ name. I also am hearing areas in the mouth, the jaw and dental work. And I just speak to your jaw, TMJ going right now in the name of Jesus. That clicking stopping right now in Jesus’ name in your jaw

SID: Now can everyone have their spiritual senses activated? But you know what I believe? It’s not so much you praying a prayer. It’s someone reading God’s Word. When you read, when you meditate on God’s Word, what do you do?

RYAN: When I meditate on God’s Word, I realize that these are written words unless God breathes on them. So when I read God’s Word, I say, “Holy Spirit, come and illuminate this to me. Speak to me through this.” What happens is I’m reading the Word, the Bible that many people read, but it becomes a doorway into encounter, into moments of intimacy with the Lord where I go from the written Word to the Living Word.

SID: Speaking about going from the written Word to the Living Word, God wants to display His might, His Kingdom, not yours, not your might, not your kingdom, His might, His Kingdom through you. But the first step is you have to transfer kingdoms. You have to go from the kingdom of darkness to the kingdom of the son of His love. The way you do that is to tell God that you’re sorry for every wrong thing you’ve done your entire life and believe the blood of Jesus washes away your sins and then you’re as righteous as Jesus. And when you’re clean, you say, “Jesus, come inside of me. Be Lord of my life.” Say it out loud. You don’t need my words. You just need a heart hungry for God.

Sid:  My guest Steven Brooks has moved in the anointing, has had visitations from the Lord, has seen healing and has now moved into miracles.  And Steven, tell me about the woman in California that had five broken bones.

Steven:  Well, Sid I was hosting a conference and this dear sister flew from California all the way out to North Carolina to attend this meeting and she came on purpose because she believe that God would do a miracle, she had an accident with her foot and had the doctor examine her foot.  Even had the x-rays showed that five bones were completely broken and not even really broken and they were shattered and caused all kinds of problems for her foot so she came to the meeting.  And I got so involved in the meeting because I was preaching and ministering and doing other things that on the last day, I realized that I never even specifically prayed for her and so on the last day just before the last meeting, I prayed for her.  I asked God to do a miracle in her foot and Sid on the last song that night, just a few hours later as the meeting was closing she came dancing down the aisles in front of hundreds of people completely healed all bones completely mended and made brand new. 

Sid:  And I understand she had an x-ray because you always look for verification, what did the x-ray show?

Steven:  Well, she went back to the doctors.   The doctor reexamined her, the same doctor and said, “I actually made a mistake; you actually broke seven bones, the other two I could not see.”  And he said, “I have never in my life seen such phenomenal new bone growth development as this.”

Sid:  Steven you’re seeing miracles like I only hear about in India now breaking out in the United States, but tell me about a few things that are going on in India.   Tell me about some deaf mutes and especially the woman that was paralyzed.

Steven:  Well Sid, I was ministering at a church there over 2,000 people in the meeting and as I was ministering to the sick, they were all hard cases; there was no easy cases, no little headache; nobody with a little arthritis in their elbow; all hard cases with either leprosy, or massive infections or just things diseases that would just break your heart.  There were people that had just huge chunks of flesh missing from their bodies and just raw open wounds.  And so I had my work cut out for me but I knew the Lord Jesus was going to touch them and heal them.  And sure enough God’s power fell in the meeting and the Lord began to heal a few Christians, but there were also Hindus in the meeting that were not yet believer’s they came to the meeting just expecting that God would do something for them.  And God began to heal the Hindus.  But Sid, even out of all the people that were being healed, there was one person in the crowd to me that looked worse than all of them, even when you are under the anointing your natural mind still operates and my natural mind said, “Wow, that one is a tough one right there.”  It was a young woman in her early twenty’s, they had brought into the meeting and laid out on the front row.  She looked like a sack of potatoes and she was partially paralyzed and she could not operate any parts of her body.  She also suffered from type of blindness you could wave your hand in front of her face and there was absolutely no response; she was demon possessed and it was just an absolute heart breaking situation.  And when that anointing fell and God began to do miracles they helped her up and she stood before me and I took about five minutes and Sid, I prayed with everything I had for her, this wasn’t just like you touch a person and okay let’s move them out of here real quick because we don’t want anybody to know that nothing’s happening.  No I took the time to pour everything I had into her and after about five minutes they took her on off.  But Sid, when they carried her off she looked exactly the same as she looked when I prayed for her.  But I knew the anointing; God’s power had gone into her body and so later that night God continued to do miracles.  But the next morning, the next morning right at the height of praise and worship when the whole church was worshipping the Lord in walked that young woman, she had walked in she was completely healed.  She had rays of light streaming out her face; all the paralyses had left her body.  She had been demon possessed, they had been driven out and she was a Muslim; we didn’t even know that.  It is very rare to see a Muslim give their whole heart to the Lord like that even in a Hindu culture.  It absolutely shook the church, the miracle was so powerful.  The pastor got her up on the stage, had her walking up and down, had her doing all kinds of exercises.  Just absolutely…

Sid:  Briefly, tell me about that youth conference of young people in Nepalese.

Steven:  That was in the foot hills of the Himalayan Mountains.

Sid:  You got to tell me about the golden rain though.

Steven: I tell you Sid, as we began to worship the Lord one night, God Spirit fell in power and were starting to see these things in America, but I’ve seen it in other places that’s why I know that that real power there is no substitute for it.  I’ve seen God move and we got to contend for God’s gold standard is best.  That night the power fell so strong in the Himalayan Mountains that it just wiped out over 400 young people.  People were delivered and just deep operations of the Spirit that God was doing on people.  Miracles happening in peoples physical bodies, evil spirit leaving young people that had gotten caught up in drugs and immorality , just tremendous outpouring of the Spirit.  Sid you could look up with your face and literally feel raining falling on your face inside of the building, golden rain just streaming, just falling all over your face, going all over the body.

Sid:  People felt it, could they see it?

Steven:   You could see it, you could feel it, you could even taste it, it was just accelerating.  It was a charge beyond, it was just absolutely like standing underneath a waterfall, a huge rushing water fall, the Spirit’s power came in such a great measure.

Sid:  Well, I believe that rain, that anointing is on your brand new book “The Sacred Anointing.”  And as you teach on the sacred anointing things that the Lord has taught you, the anointing literally falls on the people as you read it.  I believe if you’ll teach for just a couple minutes right now,  no more than a couple of minutes I believe people will start getting healed.

Steven:  Sid, the Bible tells us that the anointing in Isaiah 10:27 removes the burden and destroys the yoke.  You know the burden ways you down and pushes you over.  It is good to get rid of the burden, but if the yoke is not destroyed, we still have a problem.  The anointing of God removes the burden; it actually lifts you back up.  You can hold your head high and worship the Lord, and it will absolutely destroy and demolish the yoke.  Anything the devil has done to hold you down to try to destroy your lives, God’s removing that right now, I feel that anointing falling.  And I even see in the Spirit right now, yokes being shattered and broken off of people’s necks.  Financial yokes that are being broken right now, expect a miracle deliverance financially.  God says help is coming, I also see a physical anointing for a miracles happening right now.  God’s touching knees, you’re feeling a heat, a fire in your knees.  If you are sitting down I want to ask you to get up, begin to move your knees around.  Do some gentle small squats, begin to exercise those knees, you’ll find the pain is gone.  You’ll also begin to realize that there is new synovial fluid that God is putting into the knees right now.  I’m specifically speaking to those of you that have had knee operations get up and receive your miracle, you’ll even find that that metal will dissolve Dr. Jesus is working now giving brand knew knees receive a creative knee miracle now to the glory of God.  The anointing is moving up to eyes, God is not only healing eyes but He is releasing a prophetic anointing to see, like you’ve never seen before in to the miraculous realm into the realm of the Spirit and into the realm of faith.  There is new eyes for seeing the eyes of faith like Jesus sees it.  There is no situation that is hopeless, there is nothing that is impossible; God’s anointing eyes, you’ll feel fire on your eyes right now.  Brother Sid, there is fire coming on people’s hands, that is a tangible anointing that God is releasing you.  If you are sensing a fire, a heat in the palms of your fingers receive a healing anointing now, friends as receive that anointing please take note that you are responsible to exercise that gift and that grace the God is imparting to you right now.  God find somebody to release that anointing now in the name of Jesus. 

Sid: you talk about the importance when people receive this anointing…they will receive that anointing of not to ever take any glory for yourselves, speak to that.

Steven:  That’s very important Sid; it’s the Lord Jesus Christ that does the miracles.  It’s His power, all we are vessels that the Lord can flow through, it is just like a vessel that will hold water out into a vase that’s all we are, we’re just a vessel and the more humble and the more gracious and the more loving that we can walk in the Lord’s character and His attributes the greater the power and that anointing that he can flow through us. 

Sid:  And you talk about a prophetic word that when the foundation stone of the temple is laid what’s going to happen to the church?

Steven:  Sid, we’re overdue a great outpouring of the Spirit, it’s coming soon.  I believe an indicator that we can see a great release, and we’re going to see things even before this, but were going to see a wave of glory like we never seen before and it will be released when they lay that foundation for the temple that is going to be built in Jerusalem.

Sid: When do you think that will laid?

Steven:  I think that we are just a few years out, but we don’t want to say well we’ll wait until we see it until we start praying for the sick or believe God for miracles, things are happening now.  But there is going to be an acceleration when we reach that point there will just be an outpouring like we have never seen before.

Sid:  I’m speaking with Steven Brooks and you come on in and you ease drop in our conversation.  Steven we’re talking about your brand new book, called the “Sacred Anointing.” You make the point that until even Jesus Himself was anointed he did no miracles.

Steven:  That’s correct, Sid sometimes we have certain traditions that said, when Jesus was a young child He fashioned some clay into a pigeon and threw it up in the air and it turned into a bird and flew off.  But that’s, none of those things happened, the Lord Jesus did not do any miracles until after he has been anointed by the Spirit which conveys to us the truth that we need to be anointed by the same Holy Spirit to do the same works of Jesus. 

Sid:  And you had a series of visitations and the Lord began dealing with you to study the anointing and you go into such depth in your book, but there’s Biblical oil that I never even thought about that you talk about that you talk about, I believe its pronounced Onycoo (?).

Steven:  Onycha or onycoo(?) and this is an oil that’s actually used in compounding the holy incense that was used back in the Tabernacle of Moses in the book of Exodus Chapter 30, it talks about that.  But this oil, I’ve have that manifestation of this oil Sid in many of my meetings and its fragrance is unmistakable.  Many people that have ever been sick, if they have to go to a hospital have smelled that super clean hospital smell.  And it’s very sterile, very clean germ free, bacteria free atmosphere.  And many times in my meetings the fragrance of onycha will come forth because that clean hospital fragrance is derived actually from benzene which is a product a derivative of onycha and it’s that super clean hospital smell.  Sid, last year I was ministering in a church in south India, several thousand people were in the meeting and there were many people in the meeting that had a problem with either an infection, in this area I was ministering at they had no access to a doctor so there were some very difficult infections to deal with.  People with ooze flowing out of ears, big open sores on legs and on people’s bodies, some of the people were cases of leprosy with horrendous infections and it was very difficult for me to minister.  And even though I had come into this meeting with much prayer and seeking the Lord, the sickness and the disease was a very oppressive atmosphere to minister in. But as I began to minister and put my whole heart into it there was a breakthrough and suddenly a fragrance swept over all the people and it was a fragrance Onyca which was that fragrance of that super clean hospital smell and the moment that fragrance went out over the people all over the place people began to get cured and healed from very very bad infections. 

Sid:  Is this the only time you’ve seen this or does this happen on multiple times?

Steven:  It’s happened multiple times, more times off the top of my head then I can even count where people have infections, where there’s sinus infections or maybe some type of infectious bacteria they picked up and the doctors came out, even when their treating with antibiotics cannot seem to get rid of the infection.  When that anointing comes in that’s one of the aspects of the Lord Jesus’ anointing, when that comes in it just begins to wipe that stuff out, it cannot stand up against the anointing of God’s Spirit.

Sid:  Well, you know one of our staff read your book, even though it’s out now, but this is before it even was published and she started smelling fragrances.

Steven:  Praise the Lord, that’s one of the manifestations I have many times in my meetings, when the Lord Jesus honors His word that is preached.  And often I will preach on these subjects that comprise the Holy anointing oil, the different materials that comprise the Holy incense, and as I teach and I minister on that often times the very same fragrances will manifest in the meetings or even over when people listen to a CD on the teaching, they’ll begin to smell the fragrance in their house.

Sid:  Well, I think it is amazing is that you were teaching on this in Jerusalem and you were on national television and what kind of reports did you get from people watching it on TV?

Steven:  We had people even send in emails from the internet from China, which is very risky and dangerous for them to do, but they were so touched because they were watching a live streaming over the internet of the meetings and as I taught on this subject on these fragrances and how they represent the character of the Lord Jesus Christ, they began to smell these fragrances in China in underground churches.

Sid:  I always like specifics; give me specific person like someone in India; I remember reading about someone with an ear problem.

Steven:  Well there was one dear man Sid, he was probably about sixty years old and he had such a look of pain and anguish and torment on His face.  This dear man he had no option to go to a doctor and he had fluid flowing out of his ears, infected fluid that was green with pus and it was green and yellow flowing out of his ears.  And you could just see the torment on his face and I just felt such compassion for that dear man and I prayed for his ears and I asked the Lord Jesus to heal his ears.  And that fragrance of the Lord Jesus went through the meeting again and went over that man and when he left the meeting, he didn’t look any different, but when I saw him the next day Sid, he looked like a light bulb that was light up he looked like a neon sign.  All the pain was gone, all the infection had completely left, all the fluid stopped draining and the Holy Spirit completely cleaned his ears out, he could hear perfectly. And it just so blessed my heart to see the Lord Jesus undo the works of the devil.

Sid: And so when this happens many times the people in the auditorium can actually smell an aroma like disinfectant.

Steven:  That’s correct; I’ve had it happen in meetings in America recently when I was ministering in Maryland the fragrance of the Lord came in so strong it almost made some of the people on the front row completely fall out.  It was so overpowering, God began to heal people all over the place, I especially called for the young people, those that were eighteen years old and younger who have never stood in the glory atmosphere like that to come up and the young people were deeply, deeply touched.  And this is was a glorious outpouring of God’s Spirit and this was in Maryland. 

Sid:  What I think is wonderful, it’s wonderful if you smell it, it’s even better if someone else smells it, but you have times when almost the entire audience can smell it; like tell me that time in Wilkesboro, North Carolina.

Steven:  Well, I hosted a meeting one time, my wife and I here in Wilkesboro, North Carolina and the fragrances of the Lord were released so strong in the meeting.  Now Sid this was right in the middle of winter, its twenty degrees outside, it’s cold, it’s rainy, it’s cloudy, and we had a wonderful turn out that night.  But that night some of the most wonderful fragrances came through, it was the Lord Jesus encouraging us.  Fragrances of coconut and all of these tropical, you could literally close your eyes and feel like you got transported to a tropical island.  It was the most outrageous enjoyable thing, it was just hilarious; and people all over the room were experiencing it.

Sid:  And you point out that when someone uses holy anointing oil that oil changes things, just as the anointing in an individual changes things, explain.

Steven:   Well, that anointing oil is a type of the Holy Spirit and as we lay hands on people and anoint them with oil, I’ve had just evil spirits leave instantly, come out of people the moment that oil goes up them.  And see what’s wonderful is that that oil will stay there and saturate and soak in to them, that anointing can go into them and the evil spirit have to leave, the sickness and the disease, it has to leave, that anointing will just eat it up, it will absolutely drive it out.

Sid:  Well, when you teach on the anointing oil this happens, they literally change and ….What do you believe in your heart of hearts, because it’s brand new it’s literally just off the press, is going to happen to people that read your book?

Steven:  Sid, I believe that miracles are going to happen.  I actually believe that miracles are happening right now, the Holy Spirit is revealing to me that right now people are having their ears healed.  If you ever had a problem with deafness, having their ears healed, if you ever had a problem with deafness, in ability to hear properly the Holy Spirit is actually cleaning out ears right now, ear that have been damaged from a loud noises or gunshots or something that has damaged.  Somebody has had gunshot, so much gunshot noise, I sense that you are in the military and your hearing has been permanently damaged.  You are being completely healed right now, right now.  Oh glory to God, there is infections in people’s noises and somebody has infections all in your throat, you have lymph nodes out of control completely in your throat and in your armpits, God is healing your body right now, that infection that has completely thrown your blood off is completely healed right now; receive that healing power of the Lord Jesus. 

Sid:  Oh, I don’t know about you Mishpochah, but I am just receiving such a tangible presence of the Holy Spirit in my studio right now that I believe when you read Steven’s book you are going to be basking in the glory of God.  If that’s all that would happen that would be wonderful, but as Steven points out when you’re in the presence of God, something changes and it’s not God, He changes not, you change you start getting healed from the inside out.  And I heard Steven as you began to move in words of knowledge that someone’s back was being healed.  Have you seen people with bodily organs they’ve been restored, like kidneys?

Steven:  I have, I actually had a person come into my meeting, she was looked completely yellow because the kidney’s were not operating, there was no filtering taking place and she was on a waiting list to get a transplant, but was running out of time.  And she came to my meeting Sid, she was basically either get a miracle or she could die.  And I prayed for her and that night at the meeting.  Now when that anointing goes in sometimes it takes a little time to work, sometimes it would be an immediate miracle, but I knew when I laid hands on her God had done a miracle.  I saw her for breakfast the next morning and when I saw her she was so happy even the color of her flesh had changed and returned to normal.

Sid:  What did the doctors say about her? 

Steven:  The doctors said that it was actually she had a Jewish doctor and the doctor said, “You are completely healed.”

Sid:  Woops we are completely out of time. 

Sid:  Well, I know why my guest Steven Brooks is red hot for the Messiah, the last two days and by the way if you for some reason didn’t catch the last two days, go on our web www.sidroth.org.  Sidroth.org. and you got to listen to these two days, because I believe that the average person would have folded, lost their faith.  Probably my guess Steven is what did you say?  You were living in a cardboard box, it got as cold as about eighteen degrees, you didn’t have money, you didn’t have food, you’re car wasn’t working, you didn’t have a job, none of your friends would help you.  I would have imagined the devil could have pushed you over that line and you could have committed suicide pretty easily.

Steven:  It was close Sid, I did feel like I was reaching a point where I was about to snap and I remember the turning point; the thing that was beginning to help me was that I realized that this was not God doing this to me; this was the devil.  And one night I was reading my Bible, I told the Lord I said, “Lord it’s freezing, it’s cold, I’m hungry I haven’t eaten for days and this is absolutely miserable,” and I said “Lord, it can’t get any worse than this.”  And Sid when I said, that it started raining.

Sid:  Oh no!

Steven:  It got worse, and my cardboard box wasn’t the commercial grade it was the amateur grade, it had no roof on it so my box got totally soaked, I had to go sit in my car which would not start, it was colder in the car than it was outside, just crazy.  But, I remember I got upset, I said, “Lord, I’ve been told that it’s holy to be poor and that we’re suppose to suffer.” But I said, “Something is wrong, I’ve been greatly misinformed.”  And the Lord said, “That is true and I want to teach you a truth now that I want to bless you and take care of you.”  So for the first time I began to resist what the devil was doing instead of cooperating with it.

Sid:  And as we found out on yesterdays broadcast, God so blessed you.  You got a hundred fold offering which was a hundred fold return for the $4.00 that you had given the week before, you got a free room to live in, you got a job, today you’re married, you have children, you have a wonderful family; you have a worldwide ministry.  And on yesterday’s broadcast we ended with that forty-five minute visitation you had from Jesus.  What did He tell you?

Steven:  One of the things that He was talking about, Sid is the importance of the increase of the anointing with His miracle power and we’re going to see things that are really going to boggle and challenge the intellects of even the scoffers and the doubters.  And the creative miracles are going to come back into the church in a great degree and actually not even come back in a sense, but even surpass things that they saw during the days of the Book of Acts.  And I have seen the Lord do creative miracles inwardly with people getting new parts inwardly hat were not there, whether it’s a new kidney, a new heart or even new vertebrae or things put back into the spine that were destroyed or deteriorated or gone or new disk.  But now we’re going to begin to see the outward creative miracles.  And that is what we are coming into in these last days there is a greater degree of that and the Lord encouraged me with that and put a great emphasis upon the importance of a faith that will hold on to him for this.

Sid:  Now is this just you that is going to move in these creative miracles, is it just a few people that will move it?  What did He show you?

Steven:  Well, it’s like an apostolic mantle that’s being placed upon the church and so there will be individuals that move in it with remarkable signs and wonders.  There will be many ministers that move in this, but I believe the anointing is going to be so strong that it will, anybody that wants to cooperate with the Holy Spirit will be a candidate to be anointed to move in miracle power.

Sid:  Tell me about what’s going on with you, for instance what happened in Jerusalem, the creative miracles?

Steven:  Well, one of the creative miracles, of course there were testimonies of people who had gotten up out of a, one lady got up out of a wheelchair, could not walk and doctors could not do anything for her spine completely healed.  And many of I don’t want to say normal miracles, but there’s always all types of healings.  But beginning to touch more with the creative miracles, there was a young man right around the age of probably around the age of fourteen years old who’s feet were just as flat as a pancake, he was totally flatfooted with no arches and he was one of the last people I actually prayed for in the healing line and as I went down the healing line praying for people we had some notable miracles of healing take place, but I had not yet seen a creative miracle.  And when I got to him I asked him, “What was wrong?”  He said, “I’m flatfooted,” his mother verified that.  I said, “Well, let’s verify it even greater by taking off the shoes and socks.” And there were about twenty people to witness this, as I laid hands on him and asked the Lord Jesus to put new arches in his feet.  Right there on the spot, brand new…you could see the bones move, you could see the indention of the foot go in and he has today two complete perfect arches.  His mother even said even several days after the miracle, “His feet are absolutely perfect now.”

Sid:  Now, take me back to that visitation that you had with the Lord, that forty-five minute visitation.  What else did He tell you?

Steven:  It’s the power also, the glory will attack the people and Sid, I believe in preaching the word, I believe in preaching the gospel, but there has to be the Lord was emphasizing that there has to be a manifestation of the power of the gospel and we have to believe Him for miracles.  He even gave me a charge in a sense to believe Him for miracles; to not just be satisfied to have people wheeled off in wheel chairs or to have people left in conditions where they have to suffer for the rest of their life.

Sid:  Now, let me ask you ask you a question, when I go to some of these great healing evangelist’s meeting I see praise God, wonderful miracles take place, but then I look at the wheelchair section and I see three or four hundred people in wheelchairs come in that way and leave that way.  Are we coming into a day where we won’t see that?

Steven:    Were coming into a day like Jesus’ ministry in the earth, see Jesus was the only person at that time moving in that level of power, but now we have a corporate body of Christ, which is all, which is the church and we’re going to see the body of Christ move in that type of power.  And that’s one of things the Lord talked with me about is that there’s a gap.  Because when you read the gospels in many of the times when the Lord would pray for people it said that they were all healed.  And we very rarely see that where there’s a public meeting and every single person is healed.  And but, even with Peter’s ministry in Acts Chapter 5 there was a time when Peter went out to pray for all the people that they were all healed.  So we can’t confine it just to the Lord’s ministry we have to contend for that, to see that happened today where we literally have meetings and every single person that there is not one sick person left, everybody got healed.

Sid:  I believe that’s coming very soon.  And Steven, tell me why you wrote this brand new book, “The Sacred Anointing?”

Steven:  Sid, in the year of 2006 was the year that the Lord Jesus put a healing anointing upon my life.  That was brand new for me, I had ministered before that preaching, ministering with a prophetic ministry and words of knowledge and gifts of prophecy and the Lord was touching people, but suddenly a divine gift of healing was placed upon my life.  The Lord, when He talked to me about it, He actually said, this is just a gift I want to give you.  That is literally what he called it, a gift.  And that’s what it is, it is just a gift that God gave me, I didn’t earn it, or anything like that, it was just a gift that God gave me and after that happened, I began to see healing miracles in every single meeting.  And I was puzzled by it, I had never experience it before and it was new to me, it was like getting a new suit, I was almost a little uncomfortable with it, and I was so wanting to better understand how this whole thing works.  And so one time the Lord came and talked to me at 3:00 in the morning and talked to me for thirty minutes and explained how the healing anointing works.  And one of the things He said to me Sid, He said, “My anointing works the same way as you had an infection and you received an antibiotic to deal with that infection.”  He said, “My healing anointing is the most powerful antibiotic; it will knock out any sickness or disease.”  And He said, “The moment you lay hands on people and they believe and they mix their faith with the anointing,” He said, “My anointing will flow through you,” He said, “It is My anointing, but it will flow through you, it will flow through Your hands, it will go into the diseased areas of the bodies of the people,” and He said, “There will be at times instantaneous miracles.” but He said, “Other times the miracles may happen, two, six, or eight hours later because it takes awhile for the anointing to work once it goes in.”

Sid: Now, do you…I have to tell you, your book has literally a presence of God just comes off the pages, I believe that people that read your book will get that impartation, what do you think?

Steven:  Sid, that’s one of the reasons I wrote the book, is because the Holy Spirit inspired me to teach the people how to move in that anointing, that’s what originally got me started was “Lord, how do I be more effective with this, how do I minister and release this anointing?”  And so I wrote that book so that they could catch that anointing and operate in it successfully and see miracles happen in their own lives.

Sid:  Well I know that between the book and the bonus CD…the book’s called the “Sacred Anointing” and the bonus CD is “Devine Visitations.”   By the time they finish both of these exceptional tools, I believe that they will be so sensitive to the Holy Spirit; I believe that they will have a supernatural hunger to seek God beyond thing any they have ever done before.  As a matter of fact I think that’s what accomplished from both of these tools.  People want to the things of the world are just pulling them under and the anointing on this book will destroy those yokes so they can become the men and woman of God that they’ve been called to be.

Steven:  Yes, the anointing not only can set us free, but once we’re free we can go out and set others free who are bound.  And the anointing of the Lord Jesus Christ is the most powerful thing; our words that we can speak under the anointing of His Spirit have tremendous power.  As we lay our hands on the sick and His anointing flows through our hands, it will heal the sick and that anointing can be so strong at times it is even feel like a fire, or like a liquid fire or an aspect of the glory just flowing through our bodies.  And even natural electricity is a good parallel example in the earth of the way that the anointing can flow and can be conveyed. 

Sid: Hello. Sid Roth here with Peter Horrobin. And some of you have been abused when you were a child and you buried it deep. But it’s time for freedom for you. It’s time for you to be free.

Peter, tell me the story of that woman in Russia, Olga.

Peter: Yeah. Baba Olga came to one of our conferences and Olga, being brought up in Russia, she had had a really abusive childhood, but then she was sexually abused by Russian officers in the Communist system. She had a horrendous childhood. Then she met and married an American barber who was over there on business and he brought her back over here. And years later she has scoliosis of the spine, constant pain, constant physiotherapy, no hope of anything being healed. And she came to the teaching on forgiveness. And as she heard the teaching that I had been sharing from the Word of God she suddenly realized that God was saying there’s a link between her twisted spine and the pain she’s in constantly, and the abuse that she suffered as a child. And right there sitting in the seat just listening to the teaching, even before I prayed for anybody, you know, you don’t have to have someone pray for you. When you begin to actually put things right in your own heart, the Spirit of God…

Sid: And by the way, some of you can be doing that right now right as Peter is talking.

Peter: Absolutely. Yeah.

Sid: Come on now. Your parents didn’t raise a dumb person. Do something. Go ahead.

Peter: So as I was teaching she heard the message, “forgive” and she forgave. And as she was sitting there in the conference she began to feel her spine being straightened. She couldn’t understand what was going on, but she knew that there was a link now that God was working out. When she got home that night, she looked at herself in the mirror and her previously twisted spine was absolutely straight. All the pain had gone. And she came back the following day to the conference just absolutely rejoicing. She had forgiven. She turned as it were the master key, I like to talk about it, she had forgiven and she had spoken blessing out on those who had abused her and hurt her.

Sid: She opened the door that had been closed with all of that pain.

Peter: Absolutely.

Sid: And the pain left.

Peter: Jesus went into the room with her.

Sid: I like that even better.

Peter: And all the pain and all the suffering, and all the demonic power, she was delivered. She knew she was being delivered of spirits of infirmity that were affecting her spine and holding it in that twisted position.

Sid: Tell me about the woman in Rwanda.

Peter: Yeah. Frieda was in an incident in the middle of the Rwanda genocide. All her family had been gathered together and they were about to be murdered. And the people who were doing the killing just gave them the option of how they were going to die. And they all chose how they were going to die. They were too poor to buy a bullet, which would have been quick, and so they were hit on the back of the head by machetes. And she watched as her younger brothers and sisters were murdered one by one in front of her, and her mother, and all the rest of her family, 15 members of her family, and she was the 16th. All of them were put into a shallow grave. Fourteen hours later, someone sat on that grave and heard a noise from underneath.

Sid: She was buried alive with all of her dead relatives.

Peter: She was buried there. Absolutely. They thought she was dead. And she made a noise and that was her. And they scrambled underneath and they pulled her out. So she had been alive for 14 hours with 15 dead members of her family. She fled the country. Out of the country, she met a friend who introduced her to Jesus and she began to read what she calls The Book. And in The Book she began to see that, not only had Jesus given her new life and relationship with God, but He wanted to live His life through her. And in The Book it said, “Forgive.” And so she was like, “I’ve got to forgive.” And when she came back to Kigali after the genocide was over, she went to the jail where the man who had done the massacring was in jail and she spoke forgiveness to him for what he had done.

Sid: How could she do that? Explain to me how she could do that. I mean, someone that murdered, I mean murdered by hitting your relatives, your mother, your father, your brother, your aunt, your uncle on the head, and you, you’re knocked out and they’re all put into a grave. You didn’t do anything wrong, nothing wrong. You’re buried alive and you’re telling me she went to the prison and forgave that person?

Peter: She did. And that was the grace of God. You cannot do it except He gives you the courage to do it. And it’s exactly the same thing. How could Jesus forgive those who were nailing him to the cross? It’s actually a very similar situation. And he said, “Bless those who curse you.” And when she came away from the jail she was a different person. Many years later, she wanted to help her fellow Rwandans. And she came to one of our schools to train, but she was constantly in pain. The back of the head where she was hit with the machete, the pain never went away. Every night when she sank into semi-consciousness on her pillow, she was sinking into the grave, along with all the dead relatives. The trauma was right there every single night. And that conference, that school that she came on, I prayed with her that Jesus would go right into those memories, right into that moment of trauma, right into that moment when she had actually been put into the grave and to heal her at that moment in her history. And a transformation took place. The following morning she came down from her room and she said, “For the first night since the genocide I have slept without any nightmares. I have no pain in my head.” I’ve been back to Rwanda, been to her home and she and her husband are now pastor of a 3000-strong church in Kigali.

Sid: Can you imagine that from being buried alive to being a pastor of a 3000-member church? If Frieda could forgive, it’s easy. It’s easy for you to forgive. When we come back, I’m going to have Peter pray for you. Don’t go away.

Sid:  Speaking about blowing the grandest shofar, the grandest trumpet, my guest Rabbi Michael Zeitler … when he teaches about Israel the presence of God just literally flows like a river and then when he blows the shofar people are healed of so many conditions and he moves in words of knowledge.  …it is so important to understand where we are in the last days in the end times to understand the teaching that Michael brings forth in his book.  Actually Michael, you were giving a talk for a group of Christian millionaires that when they got a hold of this message you can finally put together where we are in end times.  …There is a connection between Israel and miracles and when you share them the miracles explode.  Tell me one more time about a time you spoken in the last three months and you blew the shofar and what happened. (Interview was between June/July ‘2010) 

Michael:  It was amazing Sid, absolutely amazing.  I’d blow the shofar and the Lord said, “To tell the people that their hearing had opened as they heard the blast of the shofar.”  And I asked, and the people are pretty much afraid to give testimony here in South America, I don’t know why but they are and ten people came forward and gave testimony that there hearing was opened when they heard the shofar blown.

Sid:  Oh, it’s not just hearing, what other types of miracles are coming forth?

Michael:  People are giving testimony that they felt tremendous; and I didn’t prompt them and tell them that they are going to feel fire or electricity or whatever I didn’t say any of that stuff and they’re telling me as they are giving testimony that they felt either fire or electricity or cold as their pain in their liver was gone, pain in the kidney’s gone, pain in the feet gone.  That they couldn’t walk properly and now they could walk.  They couldn’t turn their necks and now they can turn them perfectly and they were showing me how they could turn them around; and then bending over and their backs were healed, shoulders and people waving their arms and showing how their arms and shoulders were healed.  Arthritic conditions disappearing; tumors disappearing as the people checked the tumor was gone.

Sid:  Tell me about the angelic choir.

Michael:  Oh, it was so awesome!  We were in this church and I didn’t have to do a thing, I taught on the urgency of the hour.  I taught about Israel, I taught about Israel being the fig tree as Yeshua said in Matthew that it’s going to be the sign that you look to the season.  And then all of a sudden we hear angelic voices singing.  Three angelic voices and people testifying that they felt actual physical presence of someone touching their bodies and they were being miraculously healed; they were twenty-five people that came up to give testimony that they were miraculously healed.  No one touched them, no one said anything, all I did was just tell them what God told me He was doing and narrating the whole thing as He just performed this wonderful blessing of this service that He did in this church.

Sid:  Now, did many people hear this angelic choir?  

Michael:  Everyone.

Sid:  Everyone?

Michael:  Including the pastor, yes.

Sid:  Now, you teach about that we are literally in the last days, explain.

Michael:  We are in the last days, La Dorr Akron is the Hebrew for last days and that’s where we are.  Why?  Because in 1948 in May Israel became a nation as it was prophesied in Isaiah “Can a country be born in one day?”  And she was and today we are closer than we have ever been before to the returning of Messiah.  Meshach is coming soon Sid, and everybody must realize this that not just me, but greater things shall they do because Jesus, Yeshua has gone to be with the Father.  There is no reason for anyone not to be working and moving in miracles because God said that signs and wonders will follow them that believe.  And so they must go out and believe that this will happen too; and that’s the reason why it says in Joel that in the last days, which we are in God is going to pour out on all flesh, and this is what He’s doing.

Sid:  Why do you believe we are in the last days?

Michael:  Look at what’s happening, earthquakes, even here where I am in Peru right now talking to you we’ve had earthquakes in Chile; we’ve had earthquakes in Guatemala, we’ve had earthquake in Peru a little further north of where I am.  God said that in the last days that there would be problems in the economy, there would be problems in the weather, there would be problems in earthquakes.  The kinds of things that have been happening in the weather, I mean look at the amount of snow that you even got down there in Georgia for the first time.  It’s just all the signs of the times of what God is showing us and the nation of Israel is the key and we see everything happening.  It even says in the last days Jerusalem would become a stumbling block to the nations.  And what’s happened today?  ‘That’s exactly what’s going on.

Sid:  Tell me about some of the miracles of the various wars, I mean Israel should not be in existence today, but talk about the miracles.

Michael:    Oh, so many so many different miracles, I’ve you know to relate just give you an example; a lot of times during the wars the solders, the commanders would turn to the Bible. So in one particular example in the War of Independence they needed to get the city of Leyte which is where the air port is today, the Ben Gurion airport, they needed to get it free.  And so they looked to the Bible, they saw what Gideon did with his men and sixteen brave Commandos went in dressed as Arabs, made so much noise at night that 7,000 Arabs started shooting at each other and all ran off in different directions and the city of Leyte was taken over.  Just absolutely miraculous things that God does in all these wars that the Israeli’s is outnumbered and then later on there’s testimonies that are given by Arab soldiers, by Arab commanders of seeing angelic tanks on the Golan Heights and because there was only three tanks that were Israel’s, but yet the Syrian Commanders saw hundreds of Israeli tanks and they surrendered because of it.  So many different testimonies of the hand of God.  So even one example there was a commander that was told to go on the Golan Heights to go back behind enemy lines with his commandos and take out the headquarters where the generals are and everything.  And when he went in there and he was throwing hand grenades and he was shooting, his name was Effie and all of a sudden out of nowhere in the smoke, a white dove appears and flies and lands on his shoulder on his left shoulder.  And for two weeks he is fighting the most serious fights that he has fought in his military career with his commandos and the whole time, Sid the dove is sitting on his shoulder and not one of his men in his unit ever were injured.  Here is another one Sid, the kibbutz of Degania, one of the first kibbutz is being attacked by a column of Syrian armored division, tanks and armored trucks; they’re coming down from Syria and two weeks prior the British had remover all the weapons from Israel.  And Lt. Colonel Moshe Dianne has an antique cannon and antique artillery piece from the Franc oppression war of 1870.  He quickly has the mean put it together; they fire upon the lead Syrian tank and take it out and all of that 200 column turn around and go back to Syria because they’re afraid that maybe Israel has a secret weapon.  Then another example, awe this is wild, their up on a bluff, there’s a unit of Israeli soldiers and their fighting against maybe 10,000 Arabs that are below them.  They’ve run out of ammunition; in desperation they take their oil drums and pour gasoline over them, these are empty oil drums and they roll them down the mountain toward the Arab force.  A thunder storm rolls in at the same time and the Arabs see the flaming barrels, hear the sound of them hitting the rocks and the thunderstorm and they think that Israel has a secret weapon and they ran off in fear.  And then another one, they look again to the Bible and they see in the Bible that there is an ancient road that they didn’t know about and at night the bulldozers move the rocks and an Israeli unit, goes, a convoy a military convoy goes on that road surprises a garrison, an Egyptian garrison and is able because of it to end the war.

Sid:  Were out of time right now, but as Michael teaches the miracle of ancient Israel, things that very few Christians understand, why it’s so important to God at this moment in history, miracles are released as he teaches.

Sid:  Now one thing is for sure, everyone unless the Messiah returns quickly, everyone is going to most likely exit their earth suit and goes to Heaven or Hell when they die.  And if we can get some insight into Heaven from a Biblical perspective and experimental perspective that lines up with the Bible there’s a lot of things that will make more sense on this earth.  And my guest, Dean Braxton on May 4^th 2006 went into the hospital and he actually had prolonged cardiac arrest for an hour and forty-five minutes.  He had what the medical term is prolonged cardiac arrest and what is the first thing Dean Braxton that you remember happened to you while this seven days of you literally being out and not knowing what was going on while your wife was interceding and friends for you to live, what ‘s your first memory?

Dean:  Oh, the first memory I had you know is telling somebody right after they took the breathing tube out of my mouth that I’d seen Jesus three times and He told me to go back each one of those times.  As I was telling them, you know that was you know the conversation with this person was so real to me still in the sense that I just felt the power of God all over me still and I remember being at the feet of Jesus.  And just being in His presence, so those were the first things that were going through my mind and no one could tell me, no one could convince me, no one could say that Jesus was not real.  I had believed He was real before, I had that conviction, but there was something else that just happened to me like I know that Jesus is real.  There is no way that you can tell me anything different.

Sid:  Now, could you remember anything beyond what you just said to me at that moment?

Dean:  Oh yes, I can remember in the sense of looking at Jesus and a lot of times when I first came back, I’ll be honest with you  I was telling people that I went to be where the Father and Jesus is.  And people said, “Well you went to Heaven.”  And I said, “You know if that’s Heaven, that’s great but I was where the Father and Jesus is.”  I wasn’t so much looking at so much that it was Heaven, I was where Jesus, my Lord was and so I wanted to be in His presence and I would tell people, “If Heaven doesn’t have Jesus or the Father, you don’t want to be there; you want to be where Jesus and the Father is.”  Matter of a matter of fact I came to understand that inside of us we are longing to really be with Jesus and the Father.  Sometimes we say that we want to go to Heaven were really wanting to be in the presence of Jesus and the Father, that’s what we want.  And so I came to really understand…

Sid:  So, you’re home you’re real home if I were to put it in my words, is not this earth, it’s in the presence of God.

Dean:  It is in the presence of God, it’s a great way of putting it.  My real home is in the presence of God.  Now I can tell you right now, because of experiencing that when I go on praying, I always tell people now I’m going home because I’m in the presence of God.

Sid:  But, wait a second now, you pray, you were born again, you were Spirit Filled, you prayed for the sick you saw them recover, you had words of knowledge, you knew about the presence of God, what’s the difference now?

Dean:  I started looking at it from a Heavenly point of view instead of from an earthly point of view.  A lot of times we are describing things or we’re experiencing things from an earthly point of view and yet each and every one of us have the Holy Spirit inside of us to be able to really experience God from a Heavenly point of view.

Sid:  Do more people, do some people have more of the Holy Spirit than others?

Dean:  For me, I came to understand that we have the fullness of God in us in His fullness.  We don’t have a part of Him, or some of Him, we have a fullness of Him.  You know probably before this happened I would have said that some people have more some people you got to do this you got to do that to get more of God.

Sid:  You have to pray more in tongues, you have to read the Bible more you know those sort of things?

Dean:  Yeah, those sort of things.  But when I was before Jesus and He looked at me, saw himself inside of me, as I tell people I was in.  There was nothing else I had to do, His fullness was in me now I understand how much of Him is in me so when I am ministering and I’m going out there to talk to others, even talking to you right now, I know that Jesus is in me working, I know it. 

Sid:  Okay, well tell me some of your experiences.

Dean:  Well, some of the experiences, you mean in being in Heaven?

Sid:  Yes.

Dean:  Okay, some of the experience of being in Heaven was really experiencing the love of Jesus to the fullness.  I tell people I looked at His feet, His feet loved me, what I mean by that is if all I saw of Jesus was His feet, nothing else but His feet and they looked just like John talks about them, being that goldish brass and just talking about the glory that’s coming off of it but what got me was His feet loved me and if I didn’t see another part of Jesus but just His feet I experienced the fullness of His love for me through His feet.  Now there is a word that I’m using and it’s called experience and I like using that because it wasn’t so much a feeling it was experience I experience everything there. 

Sid:  So when the Bible says God is love, you comprehended what it meant. 

Dean:  Yes.  I comprehended what it meant to its fullness, I looked at His hands and they do have the nail prints I tell people, but if I just saw His hands, his hands love me.  Every part of His being, when I looked at Him He love me, not only did He love me but it was like I was the only one He loved.  Knowing that He loved all of God’s creation you know, but coming to the understanding of how much He loves me so much that it is not taking from anybody else that the love He has for me is directed at me and His fullness and it’s not taking it from anyone else.

Sid:  What about His eyes?

Dean:  When I looked into His eyes they are just like John describes them, that flaming fire but again, I got lost in His eyes, even talking to you I have to hold back because I can stop and look into His eyes even now and get lost in them because the love…

Sid:  You’re provoking me to jealousy!  How can I do that?

Dean:  Well…

Sid:  And by the way the job of the gentile believer in Jesus is to provoke the Jew to jealousy so you’re just living up to your job description, but go ahead.

Dean:  Well, I really believe that we all have the Holy Spirit and He show us how to do that and I believe that there are times when you are praying that literally you are experiencing what I experienced and it may not be in the length that I experienced it but it’s still you’re experiencing it.  When I looked into His eyes and I saw that love that he has for me, just for me it was like no one else in this entire universe existed in the sense of that moment He was looking at me.  And I knew that He loved others, but I knew that the love that He was showing for me was that He had for me; it was like it was created just for me.

Sid:  And yet as you just said, He has that same quantity of love for everyone listening to us.

 Dean:  Correct, correct everyone that’s listening.  You know that’s what’s changed part of my prayer life more than anything else about praying for people.  I go places and I take a list of names and people probably don’t know this and I’ll share it with you.  I’ve got over 16,000 names that I have on a piece of paper that I spend time and praying.  I don’t pray for everyone every day I split them up into different areas and I pray for them as the week goes through.  But I believe that when I’m praying for these people, because of the love that I experienced from God and seeing the love of the Father and seeing the love of Jesus toward me and when I communicated with Jesus and communication there was just a thought going back and forth.  I just tell people that it was like a computer downloading; He communicated to me and I communicated back to Him.  And I remember looking in to His eyes and after I thought about myself I would think about someone else and I would think about the love for them.  I would think about someone else and I would see the love for them, and it was like He only loved them.  That changed my prayer life so that when I pray for people I know how much the Lord loves them, He loves them more than I could even imagine or they can think.  It goes on and on and on.

Sid:  You said that you were kind of surprised at who made Heaven and who missed Heaven of people you knew that had died.

Dean:  Well, and that was a surprise to me because there was certain people that I thought would make it and didn’t make it and there are certain people that I didn’t think would make it and made it.  What I mean by that is that God knows the heart.  He takes it out of our hands.

Sid:  So the heart is more important than the façade, what we see on the outside.

Dean:  Correct, I say that to you because I tell people that about Aunt Barbara was a lady in my life my Dad’s sister and loved her dearly and I would have probably told people over and over that Aunt Barbara did not make it to Heaven, but she was there when I got there, she was there.

Sid:  Who was the first person that greeted you?

Dean:  The first person that besides Jesus, I went to the feet of Jesus was my Grandmother Mary and I tell people a lot of times that the reason I believe my Grandmother Mary greeted me was because she was the only one when I was growing up that I knew that loved Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior and she spent a lot of time praying for me and my brothers and my mother and my Dad and I really believe I came into the kingdom because of her prayers.  Well right after I accepted Jesus as Lord and Savior my Grandmother died.  So I never really got to communicate with her or talk to her about the faith that I had or the belief that I had.  So when I got there Grandmother Mary she was shiny she had a tear of joy and she had a big smile on her face and she was there to greet me.

Sid:  And she really wanted you to do something when you got back to earth.  We’ll pick up there on tomorrow’s broadcast.

Sid:  My guest is red hot for the Messiah, you know Mike when you encounter the reality of the demonic and then you’re rescued from that demonic by Jesus, it’s said to whom much is forgiven they love much.  I don’t have any other option, but to be madly in love with Jesus and red hot for the Messiah, how about you Mike Shreve?

Mike:  I feel the same way, I am overwhelmed, I searched so hard for God, I spent month, month after month after month alone isolated from 3:30 in the morning until 5:30 at night trying to find God.  When I found Him I was so overwhelmed with gratitude and all I wanted to do was to spend the rest of my life helping others find the truth.

 Sid:  And that’s why we have this brand new book, literally just right off the press called “Truth Seekers” ten amazing people who found it and its ten people in different areas of the New Age that found Jesus.  And this book is, I mean there are so many areas where Christians have mixture and they’re involved a little in New Age and a little of God and they don’t know the difference.  And then there are so many people in the New Age that are what the title of the book is, they are genuine, sincere, loving, truth seekers but they’re not looking in the right direction and so since my background was New Age and Mike’s was New Age we teamed up to come out with this book which is so mandatory understanding for the end times.  You won’t understand the counterfeit, you won’t understand the authentic until you read this book; and then for that friend of yours that’s involved in the New Age that God himself is going to have cross your path, this book has been written for such a time as this.  For those that don’t know my back ground, I was involved in traditional Judaism and I remember as a young kid, Mike I don’t know if you dealt with this subject to the degree I did, but I was so concerned about what happens after I die.  Did you have that interest or you believed in reincarnation?

Mike:  Well, no that’s what motivated me to drop out of college and begin studying under a guru named Yogi Busian.  I had experienced a drug over dose where I really thought I was going to lose my life, I almost died and when I came out of the experience I was shaken to the core of my being; and I knew I needed to find and answer what goes on in this transition from this world to the next, where we are going?

 Sid:  Well, you see coming from a Jewish background Judaism is L’chaim to life, we talk about life, we talk about life we don’t talk about death; now Judaism, traditional Judaism believes in life after death but my parents never discussed it.  And one day I was home alone and the question popped in my mind; I was only six years old, what happens when you die?  And just as a child I tried to speculate in my mind what would life be like if I ceased to exist because since I didn’t know anything about Heaven I figured when you die you cease to exist. And it became so objectionable that I blocked it from my mind until many years later I got involved in the New Age and I remember the particular branch I was into was called Silva Mind Control.  Where you are taught mental exercise to almost lower the speed of your brain waves until you get to a hypnotic state and then you invite what they called a counselor into your head; what the Bible calls a familiar spirit and this counselor began to tell me things I had no way of knowing.  And I got very excited about it because I thought I could make a lot of money and Hollywood had taught me I could make a lot of money if I made a lot of money and one day a Christians said to me, said to me “Sid, according to your own Jewish scriptures you are involved in spiritual adultery.”  And that was shocking to me and he turned to Deuteronomy the 18^th chapter and he read it to me.  Now I came from a good Jewish background, but did I know this?  No and most of my Jewish friends and most of my Christian friends were involved in these New Age meditation courses.  But this is what God’s word says in Deuteronomy 18 verse 9 to 12.  “You shall not learn to follow the abominations of those nations, there shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire.”  You know Mike what I believe that is, that’s just what’s called abortion today is the practice that they had back then, they sacrificed children.  That is what abortion is, “Sacrificing children or one who practices witchcraft or a soothsayer or one who interprets omens or sorcerer or one who condors spells or medium or spiritists or one who calls up the dead.  For all who do these things are abomination,” and you know I didn’t even believe the Bible came from God at that time but just in case what he was saying to me was true I went into neutral gear and I started reading the Bible that he had given me and I got the shock of my life.  A friend of mine who had a counselor that told him the most wonderful things about what would happen in the future, I said.  “What do you see me doing in the future?”  And this counselor started cursing him and he said Sid, that had never happened before and then I got into something called astral-projection and I was afraid to go to asleep at night for fear my spirit would leave my body and go somewhere else and I would be, you know Rod Sterling had nothing on what my imagination was of the horrible fate that was in store for me.  I saw myself being buried alive and I through a series of events that was explained in the book I came to the conclusion there was a demon inside of me and I want it out, but I didn’t know how to get rid of it.  If I went to a rabbi he couldn’t help me I’m Jewish so I wouldn’t go to a pastor or a priest.  A physiatrist, he couldn’t help me; I found that there was no where I could go and so on the worse day of my life,  remember as a young kid I was afraid of death, I was so afraid I didn’t even want to think about it.  I had so much fear Mike that death looked better to me than life and I remember crying out to God and saying, Jesus help!  Because at that time I had been reading the Bible and I had heard that there was stronger power in the Name of Jesus than in this power that was making me not want to live and when I cried out Jesus help.  I went to sleep through sheer exhaustion and when I woke up the greatest peace I had never experienced this peace in the New Age; I had never experienced I had never been on drugs, I had never been an alcoholic so I don’t know what that’s like, but no drug, no alcoholic, No new Age could compare.  When people tell me what is the difference between the peace that people have in the New Age and the peace that God has is the difference between day and night.  It was so tangible, it was so wonderful that if I wanted to worry, if I wanted to fear; that peace overcame worry, that peace overcame fear.  And I then decided I’d really research on who Jesus was and I was 100% convinced that He was the Messiah.  And you know that there are several Jewish people in this book that we’ve just came out with truth seekers.  One is Rafi Cohen; tell me a couple of things that interested you about Rafi Mike.

Mike:  Well, Rafi’s story is experience is amazing, your story is amazing.  I found your chapter one of the most intriguing chapters in the book.  But Rafi from an early age as a child had encounters with spirit beings that would be termed by New Agers as spirit guides.  And while you were testifying I thought to myself that how subtle that counterfeit is because one of the main things the Holy Spirit comes into our life to do is to guide us.  Jesus said that He will lead you and guide you into all truth.  Well there’s something inside of every human being that lets us know that we need a guide through life.  We need a supernatural, supernaturally inspired guidance that will lead us in this world to the next.  And so New Agers reach out through various means to try and find these favorable friendly spirit beings or spirit guides that will help them navigate through the spiritual world.  But that’s forbidden like the scripture you just read in Deuteronomy 18; that is forbidden in scripture.  Why?  Is God denying the legitimate experiences and just preventing us from having an experience of the supernatural because He wants to control us?  No, He is trying to keep us from spiritual deception and I find Rafi Cohen’s story to be absolutely amazing to me.

 Sid:  Well, what I think is so amazing to me, the highlight to me on Rafi’s interview and I know him, he’s a friend of mine now, is that he was headed out with a whole group of New Agers that he was their guru, he was their teacher in a bus and he was looking for Edgar Casey because he thought that Edgar Casey was a Christian; because he had heard the term Christ conciseness which is the opposite of Christianity and he ended up in the parking lot of the 700 Club.  I mean God is so good, he was headed wrong and God rearranged his steps and he became a believer in the Messiah.  Our time has slipped away, but these are some of the most fascinating stories you’ll ever read in your life.  You’ll begin to understand the difference between the authentic supernatural and the counterfeit supernatural.  And for the person God has had cross your path that’s in the New Age, you’ll be able to give them this book and they won’t be able to put it down…