SID: Hello. Sid Roth here with Ryan Wyatt, and Ryan, you teach people how to activate every one of their spiritual senses. Of all the spiritual senses that are activated within you, what is the strongest or perhaps your favorite?

RYAN: Probably the sense of sight. You know, just like we could see, hear, smell, touch and taste in the natural, we have those senses in the spiritual.

SID: So how does the spiritual sense of sight work?

RYAN: God speaks to me a lot through vision, through visions in my mind. Many people might hear the voice of God like a thought. A lot of times, I see things like for words of knowledge, for people, or for healing. A lot of times when I move in healing in a meeting, I’ll look out over the crowd and I’ll just see visions of different people being healed.

SID: Give me one real story.

RYAN: Well we had a woman in Cincinnati who was in such a severe car accident that the bones in her legs were crushed. The doctors removed the bones and put solid steel rods in her legs. She no longer had knees.

SID: That must have been painful.

RYAN: Very painful, yes. She had steel in her hips. She could not bend her knees. She had solid legs. And in the atmosphere, just beginning to move in a word of knowledge and speaking to bones, I said, do something you couldn’t do before. And she had no knees. So she tried to bend these steel rods in her legs and ended up bending her knees down to the ground. It was an absolute miracle. She felt for the pins and the bolts in her legs. You could feel with her hand. She could no longer feel them. She had kneecaps that she didn’t have before. And God, we don’t know how, but He removed the metal, gave her brand new legs, brand new bones in her legs in a flash of eye, a blink of an eye, in a moment.

SID: Is this unusual when you speak or does this happen more than once?

RYAN: Oh, it’s happened more than once. We’ve had people with twig legs, you know, paralyzed legs and had muscles…

SID: What do you mean by twig legs?

RYAN: Well there was a man who 34 years ago had a surgery on his back. They accidentally, the doctor snipped a nerve to his leg and paralyzed his leg. So now he’s in my meeting 34 years later and he’s got what’s called a twig leg. It atrophied. There’s only like three inches around. And he felt a hand press against his back, and I believe it was angels assisting in ministry, because that’s what they do. They’re there to glorify God and to help heal the sick. And his wife looked down and brand new muscle was exploding in his leg. Feeling came back. And he walked up front to testify as if he was never paralyzed.

SID: Now were his legs still what you call twig legs?

RYAN: No. The muscle grew and within just a moment his twig leg became the size of his normal leg and literally grew brand new muscle in the moment.

SID: You know, I am amazed, in awe, and I love the spiritual senses being activated. You had a friend that you gave much insight of the invisible world in Australia that had his spiritual sight activated. Explain.

RYAN: Yeah. For four months, night and day, he could see, hear, smell, touch and taste in the Spirit, and he learned so much about the spirit realm. One of the biggest things he learned, SID, is that what you think and what you feel is like communication in the spirit realm. In the natural, you know, we just talk or we have body language, or whatever. But in the spirit, thoughts and feelings are communication. And so many people think that they can shift the atmosphere around them or make the atmosphere around them better by manipulating things around them. But what he began to realize is that what you release from you empowers the atmosphere around you. So if you want to live in the presence of God, then release praise and worship to God. Have worship music.

SID: What did he see with his eyes when people were angry?

RYAN: Well he saw that thoughts were emitted like a color, a frequency and a fragrance. And for many people they were like blood in the water for sharks. You know, sharks can smell one drop of blood in the water from a long way away. So when people would think things like anger, bitterness, unforgiveness, depression, it would release a frequency, a communication in the spirit realm.

SID: Maybe that’s why Jesus said, “Fear not.”

RYAN: Yes.

SID: Because when you fear you said it’s like sharks headed towards blood in the water.

RYAN: They can smell your fear. They can smell your anger, and they can smell the issues of your heart and it empowers them, Sid, to form an atmosphere around your life that’s like a closed Heaven. And Jesus opened that.

SID: So does the reverse work when you’re worshiping God? What did he say?

RYAN: Absolutely. When you’re praising God, when you’re worshiping God, when you’re filled with joy, you’re blessing people, it empowered the Kingdom of Heaven to form an atmosphere around you. You know, Jesus said, “I want you to pray that my Kingdom would come, my will would be done on Earth as it is in Heaven.” He wants the atmosphere in your life to look like Heaven. There’s no sickness in Heaven. There’s no depression in Heaven. And when you begin to focus on the reality of God and just begin to live a lifestyle of praise and worship…

SID: Well wait a second now. The atmosphere is changing here. I believe there are people, and I’m hearing a very weird word for me. And when I hear something weird, I know it’s God. You know, it’s like out of… I’m hearing “hair”. I believe that hair is being grown on your head. Hair is coming back in Yeshua. That’s Hebrew for Jesus’ name.

RYAN: I keep seeing skin. I literally see some of you watching this and the presence of God is coming upon you right now. You’re feeling tingling on your skin. You have a skin disease, irritation of the skin and the Holy Spirit is touching you right now. I also just decree to those of you dealing with problems in your bones, you have bones that are out of alignment, herniated disks; scoliosis. Maybe you have metal in your body. Right now, we just decree to your body right now, we command bones to pop back into alignment. We command metal to dissolve, to disappear, and we just speak creative miracles. Cartilage, I see cartilage coming back into place in your body, in your joints. Some of you, I see people with fused vertebrae in different fused parts of your body and God is releasing those fuse bones and creative miracles coming right now. Hearing, right now. Hearing, right now.

SID: Stop for one second. I have to tell you. I heard “ear”. Just a moment before, the same spirit that’s speaking to you, it’s speaking to me. That’s a double witness. If you have a hearing problem or an ear problem because I saw an ear. Go ahead. Continue.

RYAN: Yeah. It’s for everybody. But I also specifically see a man, and I believe it’s your right ear and you’re having a hearing problem. Maybe you have a hearing aid. And we just speaking healing to you right now. I encourage you take that hearing aid out. Test your ear. The Holy Spirit is touching you right now in Jesus’ name. I also am hearing areas in the mouth, the jaw and dental work. And I just speak to your jaw, TMJ going right now in the name of Jesus. That clicking stopping right now in Jesus’ name in your jaw

SID: Now can everyone have their spiritual senses activated? But you know what I believe? It’s not so much you praying a prayer. It’s someone reading God’s Word. When you read, when you meditate on God’s Word, what do you do?

RYAN: When I meditate on God’s Word, I realize that these are written words unless God breathes on them. So when I read God’s Word, I say, “Holy Spirit, come and illuminate this to me. Speak to me through this.” What happens is I’m reading the Word, the Bible that many people read, but it becomes a doorway into encounter, into moments of intimacy with the Lord where I go from the written Word to the Living Word.

SID: Speaking about going from the written Word to the Living Word, God wants to display His might, His Kingdom, not yours, not your might, not your kingdom, His might, His Kingdom through you. But the first step is you have to transfer kingdoms. You have to go from the kingdom of darkness to the kingdom of the son of His love. The way you do that is to tell God that you’re sorry for every wrong thing you’ve done your entire life and believe the blood of Jesus washes away your sins and then you’re as righteous as Jesus. And when you’re clean, you say, “Jesus, come inside of me. Be Lord of my life.” Say it out loud. You don’t need my words. You just need a heart hungry for God.

Sid: You know in the tumult of your day, day to day life do you long for peace powerful enough to defeat your greatest fears?  Strength to overcome your mountains of obstacles you face or the presence of God to fill you with power?  I’m interviewing Michael Galiga; he does not speak by theory, he’s not just some teacher that knows how to teach, he is a man that has won every battle.  He has found how you can draw into the secret place of God’s presence and power and wisdom.  He get’s downloaded ideas that result in $l00,000,000 real estate deals.  He has found that whatever the problem, whether it’s unemployment, whether it’s your facing foreclosure or whether it’s sickness or whether it’s broken relationships, whether it’s plain fear, being paralyzed and not being able to make a decision God has something better for you.  You can win every battle and Mike you talk about in your book, “Win Every Battle” an amazing experience when God called you to Israel in 2005.  But you put out a fleece, what was that and why would you even put out a fleece?  I think it’s great to go to Israel, what’s the big deal?

Michael: Well, Sid I was raised in a family that when times got tough and just the year before started my own business and moved back to Oklahoma to take care of my Mom and we didn’t have a lot of money and so the way that I was raised and you don’t have a lot of money you work hard, and if times get hard, you work harder and harder and harder.  And so I’m praying one night and journaling and God says okay, I want you go to Israel and I’m going “Well, I kind of wanted to go, but I don’t want to go right now because I need to work hard.  But so any way eventually I agreed to go, I said, “Okay, okay I’ll go, period, but I have these two residential lots that my wife and I bought and we don’t want them anymore and it’s very expensive, a lot of money Sid, and so we needed to sell them, we needed to sell them since we didn’t want them.  So I said, God, I’m asking you, I’m going on record, I’m asking you, I will go to Israel but I’m asking you to have both of these lots in contract, not closed but in contract before I leave.  And then there was another fellow that owed me a lot of money and I’ll say the amount, not to brag, but it was $200,000 and I will name his name Bob in Indiana.  You Bob has told me that he’s not going to pay me.  And so I would like to be paid before I leave, and he said to both of those things, done, I’ll take care of it, you go to Israel.  So about, three or four days before I left something like both lots are still for sale and I don’t have the $200,000 so again it was about four or five days before I left, the phone rang about 10:30 a night that was the broker that had the listing and he said, “Mike I have this offer, can I come by?”  He comes by, it was a great offer, it was perfect.  My wife and I sign it and we say yahoo, praise the Lord, but we still have another lot for sale and don’t have the $200,000.  So I continue to praise the Lord and this is stretching me like big time.  And so the night before I left, it was 10:30 at night a broker calls the same song and dance, he calls and he’s got a great offer on the second last lot.  Can I come by and he came by and it was a full price perfect offer and we sign it.  And so that part of the deal that I struck with God was done the night before I left, but I still don’t have $200,000.  I’m still, I’m maxed out Sid, you know I’m walking in ground that I’ve never walked on before.  And so I said, “I’m going to Israel” and I went to bed that night, and I said, “I’m going to Israel, I don’t care I’m going no matter what, even if I don’t have the 200,000, but I know God is going to give it to me.  So I got up that morning, my wife and my little boy drove me to the airport, I went in the airport and waved goodbye to them and I sat at the gate Sid. Thirty minutes before that plane took off I felt like a quarterback that knew that he was going throw the touchdown pass with twenty seconds left in the Super Bowl.  I just knew it Sid, I just looked around at people and said, these people are nice people, but they don’t have a clue of what’s about to happen.  I got on the plane, I sat on my seat, there was nobody next to me, suns coming in through the window, and I said God this is the eleventh point nine hour and I know that you are going to deliver me and the stewardess came on and said, hey, if you got a cell phone on, it ought to be off and just then the door shut and you know when the door shut and it compresses and you can hear it?

Sid: Right.

Michael: You’re not getting off that plane at that point, you cannot get off that plane so I’m going to Israel, but the plane had not started back out yet.  We hadn’t left, my phone rang and that about ten second period, it rang as I was punching the button to turn it off and he said, “Hey, this is David from Indiana, I just wanted you to know that we just wire transferred $200,000 payments to your account and I know that you’re going on a trip out of the country, have a great trip.”  So I spoke to him for about ten seconds and I hung up.  Two things, the money was there before I left, but only after the door shut Sid.  Second of all, I never told him I was going anywhere.

Sid: How did you feel when you got that telephone call?

Michael: Well, I melted into the seat, you know this is a place that most people dream about going and they never go there because they haven’t taken that step into faith.  And I’m telling you, I was a hurting unit, when I got on that plane I was full of faith, but I was thinking either you show up of I go down in flames.  I’ve never done this before, ever.  And so I stepped out on faith and that’s when it happened.  That’s when the supernatural takes over.

Sid: And when you were coming back or maybe even before you found out, you heard from God that the devil had a strategy against you.

Michael: Yeah, very real I’m journaling about a month before I left and I’m journaling, I’m writing down what God’s telling me to do and what He’s up too and He says, Mike, Hey your sensitive point is your wife and child.  And the forces of darkness, satan and his minions are going to come after your wife and child and because you’re going to Israel because I told you to and your being obedient, I the living God am going to protect them with my hand, I’m not sending somebody else, I’m going to protect t them with My hand, Myself.  And I thought that sounds cool, I love that.  So I’m coming back from Israel, I land at the Oklahoma City airport and turn on, been gone ten or eleven days, and my wife is on the phone leaving me voice mails, leaving me voice mails, very stressed out, and sobbing.  And so I pull up at the gate and a fireman is waiting at the door and a stewardess says Mike Galiga where are you and she said, everybody sit down, Mike Galiga get up here right now, I run to the front of the plane and she says, “Your wife and son have been hit by a pickup truck in the Will Rogers International Airport here in Oklahoma City.  I know where their car is and they’re on their way to Mercy Hospital, come with me.  So I did, I got in the car, but Sid my heart rate didn’t even bump any.  It was a supernatural sustenance sustaining experience where I knew that God had told me that He would protect them and He did.  No matter what somebody told me, I knew that they were fine.  My heart rate didn’t increase, I didn’t sweat, I didn’t get excited, I got in her car, drove to the hospital and got there and this is the story that I was told.  Mike we were walking into the cross walk and I saw an object, I had the umbrella up and it was drizzling and I saw an object to my right and it ended up being a pickup truck and an arm and a hand an arm, a big one pushed me back out of the way of the truck, but it still hit Michael, threw him ten feet in the air and he landed on his feel looking at the front bumper of the truck and the truck skid to a stop.

Sid: Wait a second, “How old is Michael?”

Michael: He would have been five.

Sid: You tell me a five year old is hit by a car, goes ten feet in the air and lands on their feet?

Michael: Looking at the front bumper of the truck and the point of the story is they couldn’t find anything wrong with him, an hour later or so they released him, he didn’t even have a scratch.

Sid: What did this teach you about obedience?

Michael: Well, it taught me that these are things that happen when God says that I want you to do this or that.  And when you do that and you step out on faith with direction that you can’t fail.  And what I’ve learned is that faith translated into people’s terms that don’t go to church and they don’t understand this Sid is living as absolutely far into the uncertain as you possible comfortably can every day; because we all value certainty.

Sid: You know what I find in my life, the most exciting times I have with God is when I walk on water.  I’ve never really walked on water, but some of the things that I’ve done have been equivalent to it.  But it doesn’t happen until I put myself in that position.

Michael: Yeah.  That’s exactly right, once you get a taste of this there’s no going back.

Sid: It is like I was telling a few friends, I do meeting where I lecture on the supernatural and I promise that people will be healed.  Well, I’m just like you Michael, I can’t heal anyone, but when I put God on the line and unsaved people come, they get healed.

Michael: Yeah, it’s amazing.

Sid:  Michael you have battled fear and won, explain what fear is.

Michael: Well, first of all fear is a thing, and unchurched people, people that aren’t use to seeing this and hearing it are baffled by it at first, but fear first of all is a thing.  It’s a demonic force, it’s not just a feeling and those things are all, have been conquered by the blood of Christ.  I know that that sounds weird, but I’m a businessman, but when you take that blood and say “Fear you can’t be here anymore you have to leave.  And you begin to reprogram your mind and ask God to reprogram it from living in the certainty, worshipping certainty to saying I am going to X out certainty on my values list and plug in uncertainty.  I want to live in an uncertain world because that is where all the passion is and that’s where all the joy comes from.  The Bible calls it faith, when you live in faith, your happy, you’re joyful.  No you don’t know what’s going to happen tomorrow, but what happens tomorrow is pretty awesome.

Sid: It’s pretty awesome, again it’s easy for you to teach on this but what to me is what is awesome is some of the experiences you have had where you have literally overcome a spirit of fear.  And on tomorrow’s broadcast we’re going to talk about overcoming. But, you know when you were talking about in 2005 when you went into your closet and you literally were saying I’m not coming out of here until I experience the same presence of God that King David experienced.  But the issue is that was when you really finally surrendered.

Michael: Yeah, that’s the first step Sid, step number one is absolute total, unconditional, unrevocable utter complete, wall to wall surrender.

Sid: How freeing is that?

Michael: It’s freeing to the extent that it’s hard to believe that you’re that free.

Sid: Well, listen I want you to win every battle; I want you to conquer fear, I want you to be so free.

Sid: Hi. Sid Roth here with Leif Hetland. Leif, you teach on regaining the vision. You teach on dreaming with God. You’re a dreamer, right?

Leif: I do.

Sid: You are a dreamer. And when you impart this, people have inventions, people have healings, people have new direction for life. They have encounters with God. Tell me about Edwin.

Leif: Well Edwin is a businessman.

Sid: He sat in on your teaching.

Leif: He sat in on my teaching and I’ve released this actually to all my team in the Philippines because I wanted every single one of them to be able to realize that there’s a dream in your life. But I realize many of them had a funeral of their dream. So they actually, the dream was dead and they had buried their dream. And Edwin is also a dreamer. And he is a businessman, owns a construction company, and he also has one of the greatest real estate company. But during the recession they were hit very hard.

Sid: Of course.

Leif: And so he went up on a mountain area where he goes alone with God. And the good news, he is a son. He’s just finding his place in the Father’s embrace and love.

Sid: He’s not an orphan any more.

Leif: He’s not an orphan now. He’s a son. And he started to dream with God. But his dilemma was he didn’t have money to be able to pay his workers. And all of those workers that is construction workers, they get paid, but not just paid. That’s his ministry. That’s his ministry in the business. So Edwin, he started then to dream with God. And God gave him a word. He said, “Your dream is whoever lends to the poor, lends to me, and I’m going to show you.” And he was driving down from that mountain and he saw a poor beggar sitting on the street. And Edwin said, “What would you like God to do for you?” And this guy said, “I just would love to have a home.” He was homeless. So Edwin, he gathered his crew and he started to dream. They didn’t have money to pay the workers. But now instead, they built this guy a beautiful house, a home. And while they were building his home, a Korean businessman, he calls in and he ordered a house. Now another group of people called in and they ordered a whole set of upper-middle class houses, and later on, there was a school. And in a matter of two months there were so many orders that came in for Edwin that he had made more money during the first two months of recession than all the previous years back together. So Edwin, he continued to dream with God and he’s doing very well.

Sid: So if you’re a dreamer with God, if you dream with God it doesn’t matter what happens to the economy. It doesn’t matter what happens in any arena of your life because if you’re dreaming with God, if God’s for you, your mother didn’t raise a dummy, who can be against you? Leif, tell me about that Filipino man that had that idea for the Korean company.

Leif: It’s kind of a fun story because also he is another dreamer. But he didn’t realize when the down luck was going to come. There was a Korean company, and it’s been on the Internet, that has been looking for a scientific and a mathematical solution. And a lot of the Filipinos, they would like to get something from Heaven that would be an answer to this solution. And in the natural they tried everything, but nothing was taking place. And he also had deemed in the presence of God. And he was actually just going to a restaurant, and he was in the restaurant heading to the bathroom. And when he’s going into the bathroom that’s when the download came. It sounds strange that he shared the story. He was in the bathroom and suddenly he got these downloads from Heaven.

Sid: Now you said, you did warn me this was a funny story.

Leif: So he took actually toilet paper and he throwed it down there and then he took it, put it in his pocket, went back home, went on his computer. And first of all, it changed his life financially speaking. He’s been made partner of this Korean company. And this is just one out of many stories. What I like so much about this story, it was that his creative solution, and I believe that with any problem that is up there, there’s somebody, God is just looking for a dreamer, somebody that will just align up with him that can solve that very problem. And that’s why this story or that testimony is so beautiful to me. There is something in each person, everybody that is watching right now, something God has placed within us to solve some of these problems. But all God is looking for is somebody that would co-labor with him, sons and daughters that would just receive from Him the solution to some of the problems.

Sid: Tell me about the Alabama pastor that sat under your teaching.

Leif: That was just a few weeks ago in Alabaster, right outside Birmingham, Alabama. And it was also an amazing service, a good old country church. But he never dreams, and he told me, “I never get to dream something.” I said, “Just watch it.” I said, “Tonight when you go to bed, just watch and see what’s going to take place.” And it was actually his wife.

Sid: You know what? That’s a word for you. Tonight, when you go to sleep, watch and see what takes place. Go ahead.

Leif: And so the wife called me the next day and then she sent an email to my office. And this was just tremendous because he said, “I never get dreams. But I saw in my dream, and it was the weather forecast, day-by-day for the next six days, I saw it in my dream.” He said, “And I never get that.” But the wife said, “In the natural, the first thing I do in the morning, I look at the weather forecast.” He’s also a businessman and they are looking at buying this big warehouse as well as office complex to remove his office. And he’s been struggling, should he do it or not? But in his dream, he got a clear answer for what is going to take place in the next six days in his dream, and he knew exactly what he was supposed to do in regard to this large purchase that didn’t make sense during the recession.

Sid: How about you? Because your dream, you’ve had a funeral for it. You’ve given up. You still love God, but you’ve given up on that dream. Or you, you have never even had a dream with God. I’m going to have Leif, in the next section, pray for you and I expect you to dream with God because you are a son, you are a daughter of the most high God, and you count. You’re special. You’re not damaged merchandise. You are fearfully and wonderfully made. You are special to God and He wants to show you. Be right back after this word.

Sid: My guest, Bruce Allen, I don’t see how he could help, but be red hot for the Messiah, with some of the experiences that he’s had on yesterday’s broadcast.  I’ll tell you Bruce, just that one story about the person getting a new heart and being verified by a medical doctor would make someone, in my opinion red hot for the rest of their life.  But that happens a lot when you minister, especially when you talk about where we are the seventh day.  And you show it scripturally, do you find that the presence of God gets very strong when you teach on that subject?

Bruce: Oh, very very often yeah.

Sid: Well, let’s go back to when God spoke to you the first time about supernaturally being transported from one location to another.

Bruce: The Lord seems to like to challenge me just as I wake up when I’m not firing on all four cylinders or eight cylinders, or whatever we are on that day.  But so He challenged me and asked me a question, “Can a man be translated by faith?”  Now, I had absolutely no paradigm for that, that’s never been on my radar to even consider.  I mean I’ve always been fascinated with the story of Philip and the Ethiopian eunuch and how he was transported twenty eight miles away after he baptized that eunuch and he was found in Azotes; and so that challenged me, because I believe anything in the Bible that they walked in we can walk in.  So when He asked me that I began to ponder shortly and then remembering what I’ve been teaching on the seventh day and the third day; I finally said, “Yes Sir, I believe so.”  And immediately the Lord responded, “Good, prepare.”  And now I’m really, I said well, “God, how in the world do I do that?”  He said, “I just told you, by faith.”  And so here I am, you know just getting up trying to wake up and God’s challenged me with something that’s extraordinary beyond anything I’ve ever really pondered or conceived of.  And so I began to pray and study, well about a week after that I got a call from a friend, this couple have a Bible college in Spokane and she said, “Well, I had a strange dream about you teaching in our school last night.”  I thought okay, that’s I teach in the school, “What was the dream?”  She said, “Well, you were teaching on translation by faith,” and immediately she got my attention.  I said, “Really,” so she told me the story how I had been teaching the class and at the break and I said for the rest of this session, you have to meet me in and she named some foreign city and you vanished, but two of the students were able to vanish and follow you.  And I said, “Really.”  I said, “Do you remember the scriptures I was using in that dream to teach?” And she thought for a moment and she said, “Yes, I do.”  I said, “Would you please write those down?”  And she did and that’s really where I began to study the word in even more depth, because I had been where do I start, where do I start?  And from that point on the Lord began to open the word to me and I discovered that this belongs to the believer.  And if we just learn to believe His word this should be a normal Christian experience, rather than an extraordinary or a one off experience.  And so I began to fast and pray and study the word and you know Hebrews 11:5 said, “By faith Enoch was translated.”  Well it’s right there in the Bible, so a man can be translated by faith.  So six months into this pursuit of God, this adventure I was driving from Seattle, Washington actually, Edmonds which is right on the water of Peugeot Sound to Spokane which is about a five and half to six hour drive depending upon the traffic.  My friend John and I were coming and we had discussed what the Lord was showing me, I said, “Let’s pray and believe God.” Because I told the Lord, I said, “Lord, I’ve been praying and fasting and studying, and I believe I’m ready for my first lesson.”  So we prayed, we put on a worship song and we started driving and I remember every exit, I remember we stopped for gas and ate.  But we did that trip in less than two hours and I got to tell you that really really put me on tilt because I thought okay, translation, I’ve seen instant translation, but you compressed time.  And so that gave me, I mean a royal challenge, so I began to not only study the word in greater detail because I know in the Old Testament, God caused the clock to go backwards a few degrees and made the sun stand still with Joshua for a full day so this is not outside the purview or the realm of the possibility of God.  But as I studied the word, I had to go to a little bit of Physics and I began to understand something that really liberated me in this; because we’re taught in school that the shortest distance between to points is a straight line.

Sid: Right.

Bruce: And the Lord said, that’s true in the natural however, in me the shortest distance between two points is being there.

Sid: Um, that’ll change anyone’s paradigm for physics.  Ha-ha.

Bruce: Absolutely, shifted me.  Then He said this “Is it possible for a man to be in two places at one time?”  Well I know He’s going to throw out anything I thought I knew again, so immediately I had to respond well, “Yes Sir, I believe it is.”  He said, “That’s true because in My word it says that you are already seated together with Me in Heavenly places; therefore you are in two places right now.”

Sid: Now, since that happened to you, has this happened again? Have you ever been translated to another city or another country?

Bruce: I was, that was, right after that we had our conference over New Years and during the conference just as we had started, I had told a friend of mine, “I don’t know why, but, he was a professional photographer, but bring your cameras and you just snap pictures as you feel led, I believe we are going to catch something supernatural.”  Now, I had no idea, I just knew that I had that witness in my spirit.  Well, at the beginning of my message, I was caught away in the Spirit and I was above the earth looking down on the nation and I saw the outline of the nation and I questioned, I said, “Lord, is this Latvia or Lithuania?”  He said, “Latvia.”  Now it was nighttime there, I saw the lights of the city.

Sid: Now, out of curiosity, “Were you a little afraid? I mean this kind of very different thing to happen to someone.

Bruce: You know Sid, what’s interesting is that in every single experience I’ve had in Messiah, I’ve never had a fear.  There is always, it’s like…

Sid: I mean it’s like when I first learned to ride the bicycle I was fearful I would fall.

Bruce: Yeah, I understand, well, I was more of a daredevil so, but no it was always, when He’s with me “How can I be afraid?”  I don’t know how to explain that.

Sid: Okay, so you see yourself over which country?

Bruce: Over, Latvia.

Sid: What happens next?

Bruce: It’s nighttime, there’s just a little bit of a cloud, you know a smattering of clouds; we came down from above, through the roof of an apartment flat and I stood in front door number 212, apartment 212.  And I heard weeping inside, and I knew that it was a child, and where as I was going to knock I immediately went no, I opened the door and walked in and in the back room was a little eight year old girl named Natalia, I asked her her name.  And I inquired, “What’s the matter?”  She said, “My parents can no longer find employment or work, we have no food, we have no money and we are going to be evicted, we don’t know what to do and she was just pouring her little heart out to God.  And so I comforter and prayed with her.

Sid: Now, wait a second, you were not fearful, but what about her seeing you in her room?

Bruce: You know that was the interesting thing; there was no fear at all.  And I’ve never thought about that aspect before, now that you mention it, but it was nothing, it was like normal.  Then another aspect was that I don’t speak Russian.

Sid: And you were able to communicate?

Bruce: Perfectly.

Sid: Okay, so what was going on with her?

Bruce: Well, she was just pouring her heart out, she was concerned for her parents, she was concerned about the future, she was concerned about all of these things. And so you know I don’t know how long I was there, time has no, when you are in an experience with God who cares about the time, so I ministered to her and then I was back, when I was done I do remember saying goodbye i.e. and everything will be okay.  I was back in the meeting ministering.  Well my friend, Bob had taken these pictures and…

Sid: I’ve got this picture in front of me and this is, I have to tell you Bruce this is outrageous, I see you in the church, but it looks like it’s not really you, it looks almost like an outline of you.

Bruce: Right.

Sid: A shadow of you.

Bruce: Transparent.

Sid: I know that’s what it is, and what is this cloud up on top of the ceiling?

Bruce: I don’t know?

Sid: I mean it looks to me if I was to take a guess, I would say that it was a glory cloud.

Bruce: Yeah, it could be, it could be, I don’t know, I don’t look at that.

Sid: Well, I’m looking at that and that is amazing.  Were there many healings that night when that all transpired and you went for a trip for Latvia?

Bruce: That whole conference was highly unusual, the Lord visited in profound ways.  My friend the shoulder you see there just as you’re looking at the picture on the left, I believe you know him, Andre Ashby.

Sid: Sure, I’ve interviewed him.

Bruce: Yeah, we’ve done a few conferences together and he moves in the glory quite strongly and I move in the prophetic and the signs and wonders happen, so yeah, there were a lot of supernatural things that did take place.

Sid: Well, I’m just overwhelmed by this picture alone, but I’m also overwhelmed about what’s going to happen to our Mishpochah when they read your book, “The Prophetic Promise of the Seventh Day” because we are at the beginning of the seventh day.  And you prove Biblically what is avail to us at the seventh day and I mean, these promises are so fabulous, but as I started reading your book I felt such a presence of God.  Now it’s brand new so we can’t talk about the book, but you have been teaching on this for many years and do you see the glory really showing up when you teach on this?

Bruce: Frequently, frequently.

Sid: And the miracles?

Bruce: I’ve seen more miracles since the Lord began to give me these revelations than at all my, the rest of my life combined.

Sid:  Now my guest, Shira-Sorko-Ram has been in Israel for forty years.

Shira:  Actually forty-four years.

Sid:  Forty-four years!  Oh, am I short changing you?  Okay, you’re right you went you went there just in time to bump into the Six Day War and you’ve been there ever since.  And you’re the best person I know to ask the question, “We see all these revolutions, at least trying to be in the Middle East, I mean it’s the most amazing time I think in my life time, seeing all the upheaval going on in the Middle East right now.  What is your prophetic sense, your Biblical sense as to what’s going on and what will happen?”

Shira:  Well, you know God’s Beloved People, the Jewish people we hear all the time “Well, we are a hard necked people, stiff necked people,” and that’s not a very good thing to brag about.  God has promised that He’s going to bring the Jewish people back into salvation, it is in almost every single Prophet, it’s in the New Testament that the Lord is going to raise Jewish people, bring them back from life from the dead and so it’s going to happen.  Now the question is Sid, what is it going to take to get our people to turn around and seek God?  Right now the Jewish people in Israel are sick and tired of religion for the most part; because the Ultra Orthodox Leaders are so, they’re not what the people want.  Their opinionated, you know they’re ritual oriented, the love of God is not seen, the love of man is not seen, you know loving your neighbors as self, they’re hard and the country doesn’t want that.  But they don’t know where to go, we have not had yet; the believers’ is this country; the freedom to really get the gospel across the nation.  However as we said yesterday, “I think it was that there are at least 15,000 people that are born again Jewish believers.”  Do you know that years ago when a Jewish believer went into the Israeli army, the officers there were very suspicious of them, they thought okay this is a cult, this is this, that and the other thing.  Today, for the most part the army is very happy to receive Messianic Jews because they know them as a hard working honest people and so even in the army there is a testimony going out.  Another thing Sid is that we are realizing our people here in Israel are not going to know that God is alive until they see miracles and we as a Body, in our congregation in Tel Aviv; we are beginning to pray for very very sick people; people with cancer, people with going blind; and we are just saying we’re going to stand with these people and we’re going to see healing.  It is time, God has promised; He’s the same yesterday, today and forever and so we are really stepping out there and we’re beginning see some healings and we’re just not going to stop.  This is where; this is what I believe is going to bring the Jewish people to know that Yeshua is truly the Messiah.

Sid:  But the pressure that is going on right now, what is going on in these Muslim nations all around you?

Shira:  Look, as you I’m sure have heard, the young people, the students, the educated, they’re seeing facebook, they’re seeing internet, their seeing email, and they are seeing a different lifestyle that they didn’t use to be able to see.  They see that there’s freedom and the people in many countries that are Democratic they’re not tortured; they’re not thrown in jail for protesting.  And so these people are yelling freedom, freedom, freedom, they want freedom and I think that they genuinely do.  The problem is that if that these authoritarian dictators go down, what’s going to move in?  It’s going to be the ultra extremist Muslim organizations like the Muslim Brotherhood.

Sid:  Yeah, but in the west we sugarcoat them, who are they really, who is the Muslim Brotherhood?

Shira:  This is the best explanation I’ve heard.  Al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood have the exactly the same goals; the goal is to raise up a Caliphate across the world where the world is dominated by Shira law.  That is the goal of both of these.

Sid:  So what’s your saying is these more moderate Arab nations where as these young kids, idealistic and they want the best for their country are going to end up even worse than they are right now.

Shira:  That is true, what the Shira law, you know if you convert to another religion under Shira law you are beheaded that’s what happens; it’s a death sentence and all of these things you know, cutting off the hands of thieves and killing adulters and all of that.  That is that is the law, and that’s what they’re wanting to do.  So I think that Egypt is one of the best examples, you see these young people that were down in Tahrir Square you know that everybody saw and they were wanting freedom, freedom, freedom.  But what in the latest elections the certain local elections there in Egypt, guess what, the Muslim Brotherhood won the elections and slowly they’re going to take over; as I said, the goal of Al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood is same.  The difference is Al Qaeda comes in with their guns blazing; the Muslim Brotherhood believe that they can take over through elections and that’s the difference.

Sid:  Well, okay I can see the handwriting it doesn’t look good for Israel outside of God, but God.  What in the world is going to cause a prosperous US Jew to want to do what the scripture say were supposed to do and that is immigrate to Israel?  What in the world would cause us to want to go there with the big mess that you’ve just painted for us and anyone that reads the newspaper knows?

Shira:  Well, if we read the prophet, it’s not just Israel that’s going to have lots of problems; it’s all the nations of the world!  I mean to me personally as an individual who is wanting to hear from God in whatever I can to me Japan is a wake up, a wake up sign; I mean that country has been devastated out of nowhere…

Sid:  Do you see that as a forerunner what’s going to happen to other nations? 

Shira:  I think, listen just like I think it’s impossible that it would happen to Japan, but it did; so why Japan?  Japan, I don’t think has been anymore anti-Israel than all the rest of the countries almost.  So yes, “I will bless those who bless you and I will curse those who curse you” and almost all…

Sid: So, what’s going to happen to the United States if we do what Joel 3 says will bring a curse and that is “Dividing up the land of Israel,” what’s going to happen to our country?

Shira:  Well, God has a lot of natural disasters at His beckon call, and I mean just in the last couple of months there’s been terrific, terrific disaster in the United States, just natural disasters! 

Sid:  But it seems to be increasing with intensity.

Shira:  Yes.

Sid:  What is going to happen to American Jews because I see the hand writing on the wall in Europe, I see that Islam is spurring anti-Semitism like the world hasn’t seen since the times of Hitler?

Shira:  Yes, well what do you think about this?  What do you think about the Standard and Poor’s declarations that the US economic standard is liable to go down within a couple of years?

Sid:  Well, I think that that anyone with half of a brain recognizes that it must happen short of miracle. 

Shira:  Incredible; you know when Britain turned against Israel and did not keep it’s word my Father use to talk about this a lot, He’d say, “Britain went into World War II with nations that the sun never set on her empire, she came out of World War II with almost nothing and she was very very anti-Israel.  If America loses its economic ability to produce then it’s going to be a second rate country; sooner than later.

Sid:  So, because I see this short window of opportunity that’s why we’ve launched Project 77.  I mean I see God’s mercy, I mean, I see Orthodox Jews that are coming to the Lord, I see the spiritual scales being removed from the eyes of Jewish people; and woe is me at this strategic set time to favor Zion, if we don’t heed that shofar call…