Sid: My guest Aliss Crisswell; I’m talking to her by way of telephone at her home in Chester, United Kingdom. And Aliss started in 2009 an outreach evangelistic Cafe in United Kingdom. And the most outrageous miracles are happening there. For instance Alice tell me about in 2013 you had a visitation from an angel that started imparting creative ideas to you; tell me about that.
Aliss: I did, yes what happened was I had been telling people I had been prophesying to people saying “That you are going to get visitations from angels; you’re going to have downloads from heaven about business ideas and things like this; creative ideas.” But I wasn’t actually expecting it to happen to me; but one morning I woke up at 6:00 in the morning and I was aware of a huge angel standing next to my bed. And the angel had a hand on my head and all these thoughts just whirling around my head. And I was trying to make sense of them. And then when I kind of came to I realized that it was a new business idea; it was basically an idea to take a spirit shop or something called spirits where we do free healing and miracles too to take that into people’s homes like a party idea. So we started to that but it all came from an angel downloading from heaven.
Sid: Well, as you started to tell that story there was an increase in the presence of God. Do you know what’s going on; something just increased in the Spirit?
Aliss: Wow, that sounds good. I’m just going to release that to people that are listening if that’s okay. So I just…we just declare over people right now that we declare that downloads from heaven; creative ideas; business ideas. That angels will appear and will speak to you and will give you information and will give you ideas; that there will be new businesses birthed, new ministries birth. That people will start walking in all the fullness of what they’re called to walk in in Jesus Name.
Sid: Tell me some physical miracles; now have you ever had someone show up in a wheelchair and walk out of their chair?
Aliss: Yes, we did. We had a lady brought in her neighbor one day into our Cafe and she was in a motorized wheelchair. It was at the end of a busy day we were clearing up; I didn’t have much time to spend with her. But the lady told me that she had suffered from multiple scleroses 24 years. She said that she knew God but she didn’t believe that it was God’s will to heal today. So I thought “I’ve got to tell her so I just told her a couple of scriptures because I was in a rush but I said “You know scriptures such as Psalm 103 verse 3 where it says we mustn’t forget “Do not forget He forgives all of our sins and He heals all of our diseases.” And in Isaiah 53 it states that “By His wounds we are healed.” And I said to her “That it is God’s will to heal you” and I told her “That Jesus rose from the dead and that He has victory over sickness and victory over multiple scleroses.” And I just prayed a very quick prayer for her to be healed. Two days later I get a phone call from the neighbor telling me that that lady had gotten out of her wheelchair; she stood up for the first time in 24 years and she sat back down again. But you know she had no feelings from the waist down and she was not able to move; her husband had to do everything she couldn’t even turn in bed. So I said to her I was so excited I was crying on the phone I said “Bring her back into the Cafe.” So they come back into the Cafe a few days later and this lady is still in her wheelchair and I’m thinking “Oh no, what’s happened.” But she said to me that “She can stand but she’s not tried walking she’s scared.” And obviously her muscles are atrophied so how could she walk. So I said “Come on we’re going to get you walking.” So the Cafe was full of people and so we had a lot of people watching and we got her to stand up for the first time and she’d done this a few days before the first time in 24 years. So we moved her wheelchair out of the way we turned her around and we were holding on to her and she tentatively took one step; she took two steps. She pushed us away and she walked all the way to the bathroom, she turned around and walked all the way back and she sat on a normal chair and she cried her eyes out she was just so thrilled. You can just imagine what she must have been feeling; we were all crying, everybody was crying as we were watching. And she said you know she said “Jesus was in my heart before but now my heat is light, and now I know that Jesus loves me and it is God’s will to heal everybody.”
Sid: What about people that wander in your store that have heart conditions; Afeb and things like that; tell me one story.
Aliss: We’ve had a few of those healed and have had people that have seemed to have received brand new hearts when we’ve prayed for them. And one guy he had this age old fibulation thing going on and we prayed for him. And then suddenly I think that it was on Easter day he ends up being taken to the hospital because something starts happening to his heart. And they get it in there and they begin to test and they said “Your heart is back to normal.” because he was going to need some kind of procedure to fix it. So he told them “Well, Jesus has fixed it” and it’s been fine ever since and that’s been a few years ago.
Sid: How do the doctors react to that?
Aliss: I think that they were pretty shocked. (Laughing)
Sid: I would think that they’d be pretty shocked over that. Now I understand that in about 1998 the prophetic gift started moving on you you actually knew people’s names and words about them. And even moved into understanding things in the end times. Tell me me about how that gift operates.
Aliss: Yeah, that happens. Well I had words of knowledge as a teenager but then nothing for years. So I just prayed “God please give me words, please give me these things again.” And I prayed that for 2 years and then that started happening in ’98. And He’s just downloaded to me all of this information; I was getting people’s names. I’ll give you an example of word of knowledge that I had in recent years and it’s so incredible; God speaks to us in so many different ways and yet we don’t often know that it’s God speaking. You know that He can speak though our emotions. For example I had a stillborn baby many years ago; I mean it seems like 19 years ago. And obviously it was very difficult at the time but God’s just carried us through it; I went 9 months pregnant and then the baby died. But Go can used these things; and I was in the supermarket one day and this was just relatively recently and I found myself in the supermarket doing my grocery shopping and I suddenly start thinking about my baby who had died many years before and it wasn’t the anniversary of her death or anything like that. So if I ever feel down or I feel a pain I always assume it’s the Holy Spirit speaking to me; I assume there’s somebody there may have got something similar; that’s what I assume that’s not my stuff. Because He’s can so easily get on to things and it’s not our stuff it’s just a word of knowledge. So I looked around and I was thinking, I’m not feeling sad about my own baby that was stillborn, I think that there is somebody else’s that I’m feeling sad about. So I looked around and there was no body near me apart from the lady who was sitting at the checkout. And she looked too old to had just had a baby. So I thought well it can’t be her but there was nobody that else near. And so it’s really scary doing this stuff you got to be careful how you approach people and what you say to them. But what I did was I took my groceries and I went up to this checkout where the lady was. And I told her I said “You know I’m a Christian I follow Jesus” I said “Many years ago I had a baby that was still born and I just started thinking about her and I’m just wondering if the Holy Spirit, if God is trying to show me that there’s somebody near me who’s had something similar happen.” So I said to her “I’m just wondering maybe you maybe lost a grandchild recently?” Because she looked too old to had just had a baby.” She just looked at me and she said “I can’t believe it she said “My son’s baby was born dead yesterday.”
Aliss: Now, I wouldn’t had…I mean she was like “How do you know that do I look sad?” And I just said to her “God loves you so much He sent me to come and tell you about Jesus.” And I told her about Jesus and we were holding hands, she was crying; I was crying. She said “I want to give my life to Jesus.” By this point the whole line of people wanting to pay for their groceries and they’re thinking “Whose this weird-o, what are they doing?” But we didn’t care. She said “It’s my husband’s Birthday today and he’s got leukemia, can Jesus help him with leukemia?” So I said “Of course He can, so we prayed for the husband to be healed of leukemia.” And she said that “The whole situation of her family; her kids have not been talking to her and it’s been a bit of a nightmare.” And so we just prayed for the whole situation. Now about 3 weeks later I was back in the same supermarket went to the checkout and there she was sitting there and she said “I’ve got to tell you my life has completely changed since I gave my life to Jesus.” She said “Even in the difficult situation all of my family are now speaking to each other and it’s like peace has moved in; and my husband has been back for consultant and instead of getting worse and worse his results show that he’s getting better and better and better and that’s throught Jesus.”
Sid: Now God has been giving you people’s names; now is it the first name or is it the full name?
Aliss: Ahm; it’s been a full name but generally it’s just a first name or part of their name. I mean one time I had a twinge in my knee and I thought that it was a word of knowledge for somebody who had a problem with their knee. But then I kind of go back to another word of knowledge for somebody’s name and I thought it was a name. And so I said “Who’s name begins with knee?” And I described the person that didn’t know Jesus and this guy suddenly said “I think I’m going to be sick.” He said “He said “That is me my name is Knee-oh.” I had just described him to a Tee and it was just incredible the way that God just picked him out like that.
Sid: Now what has God shown you that will be happening in the future?
Aliss: Oh, all sorts of things. I’ve had visions of the earth opening up and people falling into it and it really makes me want to tell more people about Jesus.
Sid: And you know that reminds me about the fellow that started the Salvation Army that he had this vision of people just running over a cliff and dying. And that’s why they started the Salvation Army.
Aliss: Yeah, yeah and what I also saw was the righteous people; the people that were following Jesus were standing and they saw this glowing and they were safe and I saw them standing on solid ground. So I’ve seen lots of different things.
Sid: I’ll tell you what there’s lot’s of time left in the Spirit but in the natural I only have a few seconds left.
Sid: I have on the telephone my good friend Pastor Steve Gray; Pastor of World Revival Church in Kansas City, Missouri. They’ve been in 8 years of continuous revival. Steve has had a Jewish heart as long as I have known him. That means that he has a burden from God to communicate the gospel to Jewish people; to love Jewish people; to stand strong on behalf of the nation Israel. And Steve I mean I know there’s a lot of ingredients as to why your congregation as to one of the few to manage to keep the revival the presence of God in such a strong degree and to getting stronger than ever in your church. But I know one of the keys is that you proclaim God’s love for the Jew in Israel in your church…But you believe what is going on in your church should be taking place inside the Jewish people; inside of congregations even in Israel; tell me about that.
Steve: I absolutely believe it and there’s such power and glory and presence and enthusiasm and excitement in our church and I’d like to take that to the Jewish people. And of course what I’d like to see is you know how in the Bible Paul he got a little frustrated with the Jewish people and he says; “Well, I’m going to go to the Gentiles and they grabbed it.” And I’d love to see in my day; and my frustration is with the Gentiles.
Steve: You then take it to the Jews and my heart just leaps; it just leaps inside of me with that possibility. I’ll never forsake the non-Jews of course and Paul did never forsake the Jews and that’s kind of a myth. But he…
Sid: No, right after he made that statement he wandered into a Jewish synagogue so it only lasted a few minutes.
Steve: Yeah, so I would love..it leaped inside of me and I thought of the possibility that would they go for it and I began to think about how I could provoke the Jewish people to envy with the glory of God the presence of God. I begin to see what’s happened to us happened in them and I didn’t know where to turn with it I even you know Sid I haven’t told anybody this really this much but I’m not afraid to say it on the air but I was at a point and still am that if God would make the way; if I had the sponsorship financially I would devote at least 50% of my ministry just to Jewish people if I could and it wouldn’t bother me if I eventually swung and that was my later after mid-life or later life ministry was dedicated to all the Jewish people. So I just didn’t have the means; I don’t know all the Jewish people I’d like to know; especially non-believers in Yeshua. So I’ve been going around believing that…I well had this vision I was out on our parking lot and it was 2:00 in the morning and I was laying down on the asphalt praying and I looked up and as the heavens opened and I saw tanks and missiles surrounding Israel. And it looked like everything was just aimed at Israel and I was in Israel and so I guess it was aimed at me too. But then I looked up in the sky and looked like there was a sulfur look on that yellowish, greenish look in the sky. So I didn’t know if a bomb had gone off or something but anyway suddenly from the left and right came this torrent of water in the heavenlies and it rushed from left and right. And it was rushing toward the center of the picture in my mind. And it God looked like it would crash together in huge waves up in heaven but instead of it crashing together it turns downward and it rushed like a torrent straight downward like a waterfall left and right. And the strength of it’s fall hit the tanks and missiles and it was like they were just were washed away. And it was like they were washed away and gone and it was the glory of God coming and the glory of God came down from heaven. And not just spiritually but I mean literally, actually rescued the people of God; the Jewish people of God there in one of the most dangerous times in their history where there seemed like no hope; every weapon was aimed at them and it had to be a God intervention. And when I saw that I see; well that’s I mean the glory of God came down and struck me; I’m no Israel I’m just an individual but I know it can happen it rescued me. And I believe God was trying to tell me that I need to tell Jewish people to build up their faith; don’t be afraid and learn to call upon the Name of the Lord; and the glory is going to come down to them. But I didn’t know where to start and so I thought about all my Jewish believing friends and as I began to think about congregations and those friends I thought my experience has been when I tried to take revival what happened to me some of them were kind of indifferent; uninterested un-budging. So I thought about I know if I talk about it happening to Israel it probably would be the same way. So I still would be willing and love to do it so I’ve got a new strategy so I began to find Jewish people; not believers. Most of them practicing or mostly pre-practicing Jews; Orthodox believers and I just sought them out and told them…this is amazing I told them who I was “I was a pastor of this church on the phone; something miraculous has happened in my life and I just believe if they would meet me for coffee or diner I want to buy you dinner and I’ll tell you about it.
Sid: Now did they really take a total stranger up on this that’s a pastor? (Laughing)
Steve: It was tough but I found some; I mean some were suspicious; some never answered my calls but I found some. And I talked to them on the phone first and they were…I’m looking for prominent people in the community. I went to their business; went into their own business and shared with them and I found some people. And when I began to talk about the rockets and missiles aimed at Israel they began to realize they had felt that same danger. And so that is where we connected. They said “They may not have that same vision but they were saying “I know that danger I felt it.” And I said “This is what I saw; I believe God’s going to come down and help you.” And the man that I was talking to he got tears in his eyes and he said “This is like Moses, this is like Moses and the burning bush.” And he got out his prayer book and began to read Psalms to me. “And so this is what it’s like to me; and so I had several meetings with him and he introduces me to others and I have another man that I’m going to call this week.
Sid: Now out of curiosity; so you tell them exactly what happened to you?
Steve: Yes, what I don’t exactly tell them right up in the beginning is “Now you need to do is make…you know you have to make Yeshua your Messiah.” Now I want to tell them that but the reason I don’t is because other people have messed them up and made them feel like they immediately cannot be Jewish; they have to be this somewhere the is new kind of person that’s nothing. And so what I tell them I try to tell them is tell them is “Whatever has happened to me it is Jewish; you don’t…your Jewish this is for you.”
Sid: Listen; between you and me Steve I think it’s a misnomer to call Christianity; Christianity; I think it’s New Covenant Judaism.
Steve: Yeah, I’m with you all the way. I don’t know where we’re going to change it but you know Paul did not invent Christianity as a new religion; he was a Jewish person that brought the Covenant in the newness of Yeshua. And so you know but their listening very intently and learning to trust me and I’m just hoping that it goes and goes and goes. So I mean it’s just the slow; it feels like I’m on the slow road. I would have liked to have gone to some of the more prominent and the powerful and all that of believer’s and non-believers but I thought “I don’t know they didn’t listen; the weren’t interested in revival a lot of them; and it seems to be the people that are interested are kind of the nobody’s and the outcasts and undesirables and the ones that you wouldn’t normally pick.”.
Sid: If I’m understanding you right most of the Messianic Jews and most of the Gentile Christians really they wanted revival; they didn’t want to pay the price so they never started or they started and stopped; and you’re just too pragmatic. So you’re saying “I’m just going to go to the unsaved Jews because I believe that the Spirit of God’s about to be released on them.”
Steve: Absolutely, and that’s exactly. It’s slow because they don’t know me and I’ve got to go through that door but that’s what I’m doing. And I look at them and once in awhile they’ll say “Yeah, I know; I know that Christians are our friends and I know that some people and they’re pro-Israel” And I say “You’re absolutely right; there’s a lot of people that are your friends; but they are not going to be able to help you and they will scatter when trouble comes and I’m not going to do that; I will not scatter and what I have to tell you about can help and rescue you; so don’t think I just another Gentile or another pastor trying to come and get you to join my church or something; I am coming with a message of power and rescuing that’s going to come down and say you.”
Sid: Listen; the whole world is sick; the whole world has a relative with cancer; has a relative with a heart condition; has a kid on drugs; we have the answer.
Sid: We’re to provoke Jewish people to jealousy; that’s our destiny. Now it’s more you’re destiny than mine that may surprise you Steve, but the bible says in Roman’s 11:11 “The Gentile is to provoke the Jew to jealousy. That is the general calling for a Gentile believer. And as I study the old covenant the general calling for a Jewish person is to go to the nations. So the way that I look at it right now is the Jew went to the nations we were faithful; we have Christianity today. Now Christians have to go to the Jews to return the favor and when these Jews come in they’ll breathe new life to the church. It’s so simple you need help to get confused. The church needs new life and when these Jewish people; these red hot Jews get saved and they come into the church they’ll revitalise the church and the the rest of the Gentiles will come in; end of the story.
Steve: Yep; that’s how I feel. I believe it with all my heart.
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Sid: My guest Dr. Reggie Anderson has spent 25 years in Family Practice Emergency Room. He’s Chief of Staff at TriStar Ashland City Medical Center in Tennessee. He’s an award winning doctor and he has held hands with 100’s of people just before they take their last breath. Dr. Anderson you talk about something called parting of the veil. What does that mean?
Dr. Anderson: Well I feel like when God comes to find us in our last few breathes that the veil pulls back and heaven actually pours into the room with us at that moment. And it’s a very special holy moment.
Sid: Pick one of the people that you were holding hands with when this happened and tell me about them.
Dr. Anderson: Well I was actually a lady that I’d been treating for diabetes and high blood pressure for many years. She came in complaining of chest pain and so I admitted her to the hospital and diagnosed that she was having a hurt attack and I told her that we needed to send her to the cardiologist. And have a heart cath and enter in and so we sent her in and about four or five hours later the cardiologist called me and I was fully expecting him to give me a report of how successful of everything had been. But instead he told me that Eunice had actually died on the table and I was very sad at the moment when he had sad that because she had been a special lady and I wasn’t able to be at the moment of her death, and I wasn’t there I wasn’t there I was at another facility. But he went on to tell me that instead of her dying actually they did CPR and had actually quit but he had a resident that was working with him that wanted to practice for another hour his CPR techniques. And after 2 hours of CPR she actually started breathing and…
Sid: Now how many hours was she dead?
Dr. Anderson: Two hours.
Sid: Now when you’re saying as a Medical Doctor she was dead it that a fact she really was dead?
Dr. Anderson: Yeah, the Cardiologist said she had no heartbeat accept for the chest compression she had no blood circulating on her own. They were doing complete CPR had intubated her were breathing for her and if at any moment they had stopped during that process there would be no return.
Sid: So why did they continue as long as they did?
Dr. Anderson: Well like I said the resident wanted to practice some of the techniques of doing CPR. So the attending agreed that he could continue the process beyond the first you know the first 45 minutes to an hours in which they had attempted to revive her.
Sid: Okay, she’s in this vegetative state so to speak; nothing could be done medically; he’s experimenting as you said to get practice and what happens?
Dr. Anderson: Well he heart starts beating and they move her to the ICU and she’s on a ventilator overnight and he called me and said that “He wasn’t really expecting her to come back; that he felt like she would be brain dead if she did have any sort of… actually wanted to know if she had left a living-will about organ donation.” But the next morning I was expecting them to give me a report that she had actually died but instead they called me from the ICU and said that she had woke up and they had taken her off of the ventilator. One of the first things that she wanted to do is to have me to come to her bedside. So I drove into Nashville to this other hospital with my wife and I walked into the ICU and walked up to her bedside and she looked up at me and she says “I have to tell you the most wonderful experience.”
Sid: Before you tell me that as a doctor I must ask you this; Is there any possible medical explanation as to why she was alive? Anything?
Dr. Anderson: None; as a doctor I would have never in all of my medical training I would have said that she was gone; you know but for whatever reason. Well I consider it a miracle that she woke up the next morning.
Sid: Well what did she say when you met her?
Dr. Anderson: She said “Dr. Anderson I have something to tell you.”
Sid: By the way you as a doctor you observe things; what did she look like when she said that to you?
Dr. Anderson: She was glowing and radiant; she was back to her normal. I mean she was elderly and she was frail but…
Sid: She should have been in the dirt you know; she was glowing?
Dr. Anderson: Yeah and she was vibrant; I was shocked by how well she looked; it was as well as she ever looked in my knowledge of seeing her over the years.
Sid: Now what did she tell you? Did she have any remembrance of what happened when she was dead?
Dr. Anderson: She did she actually told me that she had been there with Jesus and that she had been with her family and she wanted to stay there but Jesus told her that He wanted her to come back and she had a few things that He wanted her to do. And one of them was to talk to me.
Sid: To you, what did Jesus want her to tell you?
Dr. Anderson: Well at the time we had four children and we were living in a very rural area and had considered moving to another city so that our children would have better educational opportunities. So we had been in prayer about that for several months, but this lady didn’t know that. But she said “I don’t know why Jesus wants me to tell you but you need to stay right where you are doing right what you’re doing.” And I said “Okay.” And that was my answer to that prayer.
Sid: Now I’ve heard of prophetic words but this is off the charts Reggie.
Dr. Anderson: I know I was somewhat taken aback by it but I did know that God had used her to help us stay where we were.
Sid: And did she say anything about her experience in Heaven that was similar to yours?
Dr. Anderson: It was I mean she said that “It was the greenest green and the brightest bright lights. I mean the colors were so vibrant that it almost hurt your eyes and I could totally understand that.
Sid: Now you’ve also been with people that have died and have not gone to heaven. For instance tell me about Eddie.
Dr. Anderson: He lived a very hard life; he constantly was in and out of bars and bar fights, and abused his family both physically and verbally and sexually. The only time I encountered him mostly was in the emergency room stitching him up from another fight. So I knew that his life was not a very good spiritual life. And so when one moment he came in, and this is a gentleman that I had seen off and on for years. But he came in they called 911 gunshot wound to the head and he had attempted suicide. I was thinking that he was going to die but instead he came back and was in rehab trying to get fixed from his gunshot wound to his head. I saw him a few months later in the office and instead of this mean cruel man he actually turned his life back around and was very appreciative. He said that God had met him that night in the emergency room.
Sid: What did he see, what did he tell you he saw?
Dr. Anderson: He said that he saw horrible things that he did not want to be a part of and that he turned his life back around; and that he knew that God had given him a second chance. And from that moment on he has been nothing but the most pleasant guy like night and day like a light had come on in his head.
Sid: When he told you this story you smelled something, what was that?
Dr. Anderson: Yeah, I mean initially in the emergency room I smelled almost like a sulfa and burning sensation.
Sid: Had you ever smelt that before?
Dr. Anderson: There was one other situation earlier where a gentleman of similar character was dying of cancer and he did not want us to do anything to revive him and he said that “All he wanted was for us to you know work on his cancer and to take care of his pain.” But as he was talking his last breath it was if evil had entered that room and so I had smelled that same sensation earlier.
Sid: So you can tell whether someone’s going to heaven or hell by what’s going on with your senses.
Dr. Anderson: Oh yeah.
Sid: I’ll tell you what we’re out of time right now…
Sid: We want everyone to be red hot for the Messiah and that’s almost an understatement for my guest Francis Hunter and I’m speaking to her at her office in Houston, Texas. Francis when I think about how you came to the Lord you really if I understand it right you experienced the genuine love of God and that’s what really made the difference. Tell me about that again.
Francis: Well the thing that made the biggest change in my life was I lost the sight of one eye in an automobile accident and they told me that I’d have to have a little surgery on it and at that time an eye operation was really a big deal which it isn’t today. And I was supposed to be at the hospital at 5:00; I didn’t get there until 7:00 because at 4:00 that God shaped vacuum which is in the heart of every individual began to get bigger and bigger and bigger. And so I began to drink martinis because when you don’t have God to fill that God shaped vacuum you try the other things. And so I began to drink martinis and by the time I got to the hospital I was really crocked. I hate to tell you that Sid.
Francis: But that was the truth, but I always like to tell people that I think it’s a wonderful what God can do with a mess. He can take any mess and make a miracle out of them. And so I was in the hospital and I never read my Bible except when I went to have surgery and it wasn’t there so I called my girlfriend to bring it in. And so I called the nurses in and I began to read to them from the Bible. And I picked the 23 Psalm and I spoke “The Lord is my Shepherd, I shall not want.” And then I closed the Bible and aid right there said “Why didn’t you read the rest of it?” Because it’s a 30 minute operation and for a gallbladder which I had I read off six verses because that was 5 hours. But they said that this is only 30 minutes; so I read the book and that one little verse and then I closed the Book and I looked up to God and I said “Don’t let it hurt; because I don’t want it to hurt.” And then I said “Well, maybe I’m too strict on Him so I said “Well, you can let it hurt after-wards but not during but thank You very much.” And that’s the way I said no emotion; no nothing. And then I laid back on my bed and my pillow and all of a sudden I thought “I didn’t read that verse in my Bible cause I know that one particular verse.” So I opened it up again and God did a miracle I was in a printing business Sid and anybody in the printing business know that once you lay ink down on a piece of paper it won’t come off and God had wiped off all the printing on the pages of my Bible. And where the 23 Psalm had appeared before the paper was snow white and I saw the finger of God come down from Heaven dipped in the blood of Jesus and on the left hand side He wrote, “Francis Gardner” That was name then and on the right had side He wrote “I love you.” You see God started me on my walk with Him in the supernatural; that’s why I’ve never had trouble believing miracles because that was a miracle of God. And I looked up to God and as a drunken sinner I want you to know I said the thing that is a secret of the Christian life; I looked up to God and I said “God give me back that dumb prayer.” And I said “When I get out of this hospital I will spend the rest of my life seeing what I can do for You and not what You can do for me.” And you know I meant it and I have never changed my mind; I have never changed my mind from what I said. And that’s the secret and remember that came out of the lips of a sinner.
Sid: But Francis that’s wonderful for you, what about the person listening to me now that says “You know if God would just do that for me; if I knew God loved me as much as He loved Francis.” What would you say to that person if it was just you speaking to that one person?
Francis: I would say to them “Get into the word of God.” Now God did a supernatural thing in my life; He doesn’t do that in everybody’s life. Not everybody is as dumb as I was that they had have an experience like that. But all I can say is get into God’s word; read the book of John; just let the love of God envelop you from the top of your head to the tip of your toes. And you know we talk about miracles and healing and I think that’s incredible but if when you have that miracle of being born again. And it’s so easy all you have to do is just say “Father, forgive my sins; Jesus come into my heart.” And when Jesus comes into your heart your life will change forever. Because it makes a difference knowing that Jesus is living in your heart. And if you said that prayer let Sid Roth know because that’s so important that you tell somebody immediately.
Sid: Well, you know the same thing is happening right now that happened on yesterday’s broadcast because God is being lifted up. Yeshua, the King of the Jews is being lifted up; man isn’t being lifted up; man isn’t being exalted. And He said “If He’d be lifted up he would draw people to Himself.” And that’s what is going on; you’re being drawn to Yeshua; you’re being wooed and whether He writes you an engraved invitation like He did for Francis Hunter He’s already put it in writing in the Bible. He said “Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved, healed, delivered; shall have their sins totally washed away. I mean “What would you pay, what would you give to have every one of your sins totally remitted, totally erased a big eraser comes down and erases every bad thing that you’ve done your whole life and you’re starting fresh and new. It’s the most wonderful thing that God has done for us but then the mistake people make is then they then live for themselves they don’t do what Francis knew. Francis only knew one thing; I’m going to live for you God. That’s the purpose of life is to have your sins forgiven; to know that God is real and have Him live inside of you and then when you lay hands on the sick as Francis explained much more than I can in her book “How to Heal the Sick” it’s not you doing it it’s the Messiah in you doing it you’re just the glove.
Sid: Francis in your book you make a big deal and you teach people how to pray for people that have one leg shorter than the other. Most people have one leg shorter than the other; why is that in there and what is accomplished?
Francis: Well, I’ll tell you it isn’t that they have a leg short they have a back problem. And when you have a back problem it makes you appear to have a short leg. Actually the leg is not short.
Francis: It’s the fact that when…well if you were to stand up right now and then bend over a little bit because you had a back problem you would understand that one leg becomes shorter than the other one. So when you minister healing to the back that the leg grows out and that’s one of the most incredible miracles in the world. People get more excited about seeing a leg grow out than they do anything else.
Sid: What happens to the back pain if they had one?
Francis: Well, you see what happens when the back is adjusted which is shown when the leg grows out then the pain goes away from the back. I mean then we always have them say “Thank you Jesus.” We have them bend over and we have them do a hula or something like that to do anything that they could not do previously we have them do. And it’s amazing 95% of all back problems get healed when you do that.
Sid: You know I remember my friend Dr. Derrick Prince many years ago and he said something to me that a lot of people miss. He said “Sid it’s not just the back; once you’re prayed for that way and God readjusts your spine you’re tapping into the power of God and the anointing of God and anything you need in your body believe for it that moment.
Francis: That’s absolutely, that’s absolutely right and then another thing that we do that is so impressive; when people have a problems in their upper back it will be reflected by an arm that that is short just because the back is out of adjustment. So you have them put their arms out and measure and then command the back to be healed and then the arms will grow out to be absolutely even. And you see then you can see that miracle. That’s the thing that’s so incredible about that one and the leg is that it’s a miracle that you can see while it’s actually happening. And of course we have them wiggle their back or do whatever they need to see it. And of course the same thing is true on neck problem; you just put your fingers on the spinal cord and just command all the ligaments and nerves to line up. And then you just have them rotate their head and their neck gets healed. As a matter of fact I have to tell you a very interesting story; recently I went to a doctor and I said to…I had talked to another doctor that morning and he said “Don’t say how are you; say how are you feeling?” Because that’s to different things. So I went in and I said to the doctor “How are you feeling today?” And he said “Terrible.” I said “What’s your problem?” He said “Well, I’ve got to have surgery on my neck.” He said “I’ve got excruciating pain in my neck.” And I said “You have?” I said “Do you know what my husband and I do?” He said “I think so.” I said, “Could I pray for you?” And so he said “Yes.” And he came over; I put my hands on his neck and I just said “In Jesus Name I command all the vertebrae and disks to go into place in the Mighty Name of Jesus.” And so I said “Okay now bend your neck.” He said “Will it stay like this forever?” He said “I want it to stay like this forever.” And I said “It will.” So we walked back over on the other side of the room and he kept bending his neck and he said “I don’t have any pain.” And so I said “Have you ever asked Jesus to come into your heart?” He said “No.” I said, “Well, come back over here cause we’ll get Him in your heart.” And so we prayed the sinners prayer and Jesus came into his heart.” And every time I see him his neck is fine and he points to his heart. (Laughing) You see miracles are a sign to the unbeliever.
Sid: For sure.
Sid: But here is what is so important. Why did Yeshua say “You’ll do the same works I have done and even greater.” Because there’s going to be an army in the last days raised up. I want you to be part of that army. And that’s why God had Francis and Charles Hunter write their book “How to Heal the Sick.”
Sid: My guest is sure red hot for the Messiah another Jewish man that is on fire for the Lord. His name is Dr. Bob Fischer I’m speaking to him at his home in Tiberias, Israel. And Bob has just come out on DVD with something that it has never been available before. The title is “The Jewish Origins of Christianity.” It’s 16 units; it’s actually now for the first time being offered in colleges where you can get a credit for it. But it’s done in such a beautiful simplistic fashion that even young people would understand it. And the artwork from Israel and the pictures the original pictures he’s taken and all of the historical things of antiquity that he’s worked in. And on yesterday’s broadcast and the day before and we could just barely just touch the surface of this course because it’s a wealth of information. And why should you want this wealth of information? Because haven’t you felt that there is something missing from what we call 21st century American Christianity? Haven’t you felt there is a difference between what you see on Sunday morning and what you read about in the book of Acts? Just maybe if we could go back to the foundations we can go back to the power and the intimacy with God we had in the first church when it was so vibrant. Now we’ve been talking this week Dr. Fischer about how something that started so Jewish has become today the opposite of Judaism. And you mentioned a man by the name of Constantine and tell us a bit about what Constantine did and why?
Bob: Yeah Sid, Constantine was really in a pickle because there were many new conversions in his empire to this new Christian understanding that were brought about by Paul and his ministry. And Constantine was a sun worshiper, he was a Mithras and he was having real…
Sid: Excuse me what is a Mithras?
Bob: Mithra was the sun god and Mithraism was the worship of the sun god. It was a formal system of the Middle East and the Far East.
Sid: I have heard that Constantine legalized, legislated, the Sunday worship that started a little earlier because it was tied in with the Sun god or was that just a fairytale?
Bob: Oh, no, no, no that’s a fact; during the Council of Nicaea 325 it was overseen by Constantine himself. Up to that point Gentile Christian’s right along with the Jewish believers were keeping Shabbat, the Saturday worship according to the Torah. But Constantine who was a sun worshiper changed that around and picked a Sunday which was bilaterally was Sun-day. Sunday was the day of the birth of the sun god Mithra. So this was what happened.
Sid: What was his intent behind denuding the church or anything Jewish?
Bob: Probably because he was trying to focus on the pagan aspects on the new combine belief in the core understanding of Yeshua in the Torah. Or Yeshua the basic understanding of Yeshua; he was emphasizing the paganistic side of things which had Mithra and all of the other pagan aspects of…
Sid: Yes but if he was a Christian why would he be emphasizing in the Old Covenant as I said previously, there was such a distinction between the clean and the unclean he was trying to put the two together. Could he have been one of the first great politicians of his day? (Laughing) Trying to merge the two cultures for political gain?
Bob: That was precisely what he was trying to do because he was faced with a rebellion. And when he declared the “Christian religion” as a state religion in 313 he was trying to do exactly that; he was trying to quell an uprising that was about to take place and overthrow his empire. And when he did that he succeeded it was purely a political move.
Sid: Okay, what happened to the Jewish believer’s; these Essenes of Nazarenes that were actually the whole church started with them, and there were so many as you’ve told us. What happened to them?
Bob: They basically got put down, after the second revolt against Rome in 135 they refused to join up with a Rabbi named Akiva and come against Rome. Because Akiva had embraced a false Messiah name Bar Kochba. So when they refused to join with Rabbi Akiva against Rome the Body of Jews other than themselves turned against them. So they had these people against them, they had Rome against them, but the whole world had turn against them. Just like we have today it would seem everybody seems to be coming against Messianic Jews; particularly in Israel. The Messianic Jews of Israel of that day had everybody turned against them. And they were gradually just beaten down, now there were remnants of them still around in the 5th century but they really reached their peak at the end of the first century.
Sid: Now I want to jump a little bit because this is your Unit 10. There’s some fascinating things here about what Constantine’s church was like and where some of these things came from.
Bob: Well Constantine his church blended his church with Mithra the sun god with a core of salvation on Nazarene Jewish faith. And it was this blending that really was the theological underpinning of the Roman Catholic Church. And you know the sad part of this is a lot of this stuff spilled over into the Protestant Reformation. That is to say that the post-reformation Protestantism, stuff that basically began to be accepted as doctrine and really pagan parity that began in 325 with the Council of Nicaea and then subsequent Councils. But there are a whole bunch of stuff that they brought in at that point of time time but we’re purely out of a Mithratic, or pagan background. For example, Mithra was thought to have been born by a virgin mother whose name was Anahita. Mithra was born on Sun-day late December and Mithra was part of the divine trinity. There is a Mithratic baptism for example that deals with baptism in blood; which is really kind of a gory ceremony which later evolved by the way (this is fascinating). You know when Constantine decided that everybody was to convert to this new “Christian faith” or be killed; this was really “You will become a believer.” The baptismal thing became…
Sid: Constantine was the first Islam; the first Islamic person (Laughing) with the sword.
Bob: It’s fascinating and people wonder “Where did baptism with sprinkling come from?” Well…
Sid: Hey people are going to get confused Constantine was not a Muslim, but the point I’m making is Constantine had Christianity by the sword which was the last thing that Jesus wanted and Islam is with the sword, same spirit.
Bob: Absolutely, it was really fascinating to me was that these people went to the Tigress River to be baptized because they were to do it or to die. So the Mithratic “Bishops” who were under Constantine’s control they were part of this new system of a blend of paganism and Christianity. So they didn’t know how to cope with baptizing people so they ended up doing were taking branches off of trees and soaking them in the water, and then waving them over the crowds of the people and the water fell on them and they were sprinkled, and this is the genesis of baptism by sprinkling. Which is a rather fascinating thing I think.
Sid: You know one of the things you mentioned about in your course is there are more than 50 of these Mithram (How do you pronounce it?)
Bob: Mithraism the plural or Mithram in the singular.
Sid: Okay many of them are directly underneath Roman Catholic Churches, why do you think that’s true?
Bob: Well it’s true because a…
Sid: Now why would they have done that?
Bob: Well it was just convenient, you know you find churches built on top of churches in generations. They simply… a real good example of this is Sam Clemente which is a very large Roman Catholic Church as I recall 12th Century. The 12th Century church which stands today. And used today is built on top of a 4th Century Church which is in turn is built on top of a Mithraham.
Bob: And Mithraham was a functioning underground cave wherein the very first believers in the time of Constantine worshiped the sun god.
Sid: Now even in Christianity today this Mithratic worship or the worship of sun gods is some remnants; tell us a few quickly.
Bob: Oh, my goodness yes. For example the halo, if you will. The halo we find throughout the church.
Sid: In Christian art where you see that halo over someone’s head.
Bob: How many Sunday School kids or how many of our children have worn halo’s quite innocently. It’s a symbol of Mithra. If you look at any of the major Roman Catholic Churches for example at their domes there sunburst, a burst of the sun. If you look at St. Peter’s Square itself and look down from above you’ll see a sunburst in St. Peter’s Square. In fact you’ll see a sunburst within a sunburst. You know the worship of the sun is permeated; go take a look at the Washington Monument if you will and you’ll see an obelisk which is at the center of this sun worship system. There are obelisk all over the place; some have even subscribed that church steeples have a root in this same paganistic sort of thing. The inculcation of thanks to Mr. Constantine the inculcation of these pagan ideas and pagan understandings have really permeated the whole church. You know you’ve got Easter for example that’s got this beautiful most important day in our faith; the resurrection of our Lord is celebrated now on the holiday of the birth of Ostra who was a pagan goddess; a goddess of fertility; the goddess of love.
Sid: I’ll tell you what we’re out of time right here Mishpochah….
SID: Once this downloaded into Jim and he started teaching, just as he’s teaching, God starts to reveal miracles. Tell me a few.
JIM: Well one of the most amazing miracles that I’ve ever seen in my life was I was pastoring and there was a couple that came, that was visiting our church. And they were originally from Romania, but they lived right down the street from their friends from Chicago who lived there. And I was, I had not had a chance to meet them yet, but I was just praying travel mercies over this couple back in Chicago. While I was praying for this couple, I felt this light coming from this young lady that I had not even met yet, this warm light. So I stopped my prayer after I prayed for them, and I started praying for her. In the middle of the prayer, God starts prophesying through me. I didn’t know what I was going to say. I just started saying what was in the spirit. And I said, “Ma’am, God says that your womb is broken and that you are in tremendous pain. But God says that He is going to heal your womb and He is going to bring forth an anointed child.” And she starts crying, and she says, “Did you tell him?” And this one woman says, “Did you tell him?” And I said, “Tell me what? I don’t even know what I just said.” Well come to find out, we prayed for her in depth, and after that, 50 days later, which is the number—
SID: How long had she been barren?
JIM: Seven years.
JIM: They had been trying to have children. I didn’t know if she had 10 children. If she had 10 children, that would have been a little embarrassing. But she didn’t have any. She had been barren. Fifty days later, during the Feast of Tabernacles, which is the celebration feast of the year, she gets healed and pregnant on the same day.
SID: That’s quite a celebration.
SID: But tell me about that staff member that had a newborn baby that was critical.
JIM: Yeah. This was an amazing story. We get a call from one of our satellite leaders in Oklahoma, and he calls, and he’s in desperation mode. His newborn baby girl is in ICU and she’s dying, and she’s just, I think, a week old. And she has a very, very high temperature and an infection that they cannot find what’s going on. So he doesn’t know anything. So he says, I’ve got to call my pastor. So calls me. We get on the phone together. I don’t know you. I had never met her. But I just pray. And so as I’m praying, I literally saw a vision of this little baby lying on the right side and God gave me a word of knowledge, and He said, “She’s on the wrong side. There’s a problem with her right side.” So I stopped the prayer and I told him, and I said, “Listen, what you need to do is go back to your doctor. Have him check the right side.” So he went back to his doctor and if you can imagine the conversation with his doctor: “Doctor, my pastor had a vision while he was praying and says that you need to check the right side.” And the doctor is a little bit frustrated. What are you talking about? But he did it anyway because there’s nothing else they could do. And they had chosen to use an ultrasound machine, which they had never done. They had taken all the blood tests, scans and everything. They scanned her right side where all the tubes and everything were, and they find three blood clots on her right side. They immediately put her in emergency surgery and they cut out those blood clots. And wouldn’t you know it, God is so good. Three weeks later, she’s at home with her mother and a perfect healthy baby girl.
SID: But had God not intervened they would not have had that perfect, cute little baby girl. Now you love to study the ancient Hebrew alphabet because as you’ve explained to me, it’s sort of like in the Chinese, they’re actually…the first words were pictures.
SID: Pick one and give me an example.
JIM: One of the most powerful ones that I found, again, every letter in Hebrew originally was a picture like Egyptian hieroglyphics. And every letter has a meaning to it. For instance, the letter “Tav”, which is the last letter in the Hebrew alphabet, was in the form, catch this, a cross, and it meant “covenant.” Okay. And there’s another letter, which is the letter “Yod”. And the letter Yod originally was like a nail. Okay. And then another letter is the letter “Resh”, which is literally a picture of a head of a man, and it meant the head, or the beginning. And then another letter, and I’m going somewhere with this, is the letter “He”, and the letter He is one of my favorite letters because I had six children, and it’s a picture of a guy jumping up and down, and it means revelation. Well what I just did is I gave you Tav, Yod, Resh and He. That word is the word, “Torah” in Hebrew, and it means in pictograph, “The covenant of the nail is the head of revelation.” And so let me break that down for you of how incredible this is, because Yeshua, Jesus, says he’s the Word of God. Okay. Well the only word of God in the first century when there was no New Testament was the Torah and the prophets, and the psalms. And so he says, “I’m the Living Word of God. I am the covenant of the nail,” the nail was the nails that were put into his wrists on the cross, right. And he’s the head of revelation. Now what’s most important, incredible, is if you read it backwards. If you read it backwards, it’s—
SID: Which is the way you read Hebrew.
JIM: Which is the way you read Hebrew. From our perspective, it’s backwards, right. But if you read it backwards it’s “revealed as the head of the nail covenant.” So it you know Torah, that’s why, remember in John it says, Yeshua says, “If you knew me, you would have read Moses because he wrote about me.” Because what? Moses was the Torah, and what was written in the very word of “Torah” is “the covenant of the nail, is the head of revelation.” Yeshua is saying, “I am the covenant.”
SID: You think that’s something? When we come back, have you ever wondered why Jewish people are so blessed? For instance, we’re a minority of minorities. Nobel prizes, highest percentage by religion: Jews. Look at doctors, lawyers, business people, Hollywood, the arts. Amazing. Why? There’s a good reason. And when we come back you’re going to find out.
Sid: Well my guest has one of the fastest growing ministries in the country in which he teaches Hebrew roots but the thing that’s so amazing is his original breakthrough supernaturally came from an angelic visitation. He was raised Catholic; he wasn’t overly charismatic growing up, however after he started teaching on understanding, he calls it the first part of the book, or is known as the Old Covenant. After he started teaching and understanding this all of a sudden miracles started breaking out. Jim Staley tell me about one of the first interesting miracles that occurred.
Jim: Wow there’s so many that we could go through but I mean everything from there’s a Christian worship artist. This was in the last year and a half he’s called the Chris Tomlin of Russia. We have a very robust Russian U-tube channel, we have 30 – 40 Russians a month that are watching and he was one of them. He travels all over the world and does his artistry and singing and so on and so forth; and he began to start to learn the Christian roots of his faith; where the roots of his Christianity came from. Which is from the Hebrew perspective, and so when he did that he had never seen miracles before. But he was so impacted by this he flew halfway across the world to come meet me; he doesn’t even speak English; and he went back there and this is not a physical miracle but an incredible miracles non-the-less. He quit his job; went on full time missionary support and he is now planting churches all over the Baltic states; Russia itself you name it and he led one of the highest Bishops in the Russian Orthodox Church; the highest of all Bishops he led that person to completely surrender his life to Christ. And that person has stepped down from their position and travels the world teaching people the Christian roots of their faith. So the entire Russian Orthodox Church now has someone that’s traveling around the world teaching them the front of the book and how it relates to Jesus who is found in the back of the book.
Sid: And when I think of a particular group of Christians that are known for anti-Semitism that’s the group. (Laughing) Which makes it even more phenomenal.
Sid: Okay, tell me in your opinion one of the more unique miracles that have occurred because there’s just so many that are happening. I’ll tell you what tell me about the woman that had the tumor the size of a cantaloupe.
Jim: Yeah, you know this is an interesting story. She had… they were just traditional Christians and did their regular church and so on and so forth just going on with their life and she had this very large issue in her throat. She had to go in for surgery for it and right before that, 2 weeks before that, they came into the understanding of the Christian roots of their faith and began to read the Bible from a different perspective and it caused them to repent over a few things. And they made some changes in their life and in their family and just like all the times in the Old Testament where God’s people realized they were in sin they came back into Covenant and God began to bless them again. Well what happened was she went in for this surgery, the doctor said “You’re probably going to lose your vocal chords you’re never going to be able to speak again.” Of course that’s a very difficult thing for a family to deal with the husband lost his job. The wife had lost the children in a divorce preceding and so it was just a really really bad time in their life. After they made this confession that “God we’ve been out of Covenant we’ve made some changes were going to do this, we’re going to do that the way that you asked us to we’re going to do our best.” Within 2 weeks she came out of that surgery talking when the doctor said “That’s impossible that this has happened;” she was completely healed; the husband got his job back within a week and they got the children back from the court system within a week after that. All of this just within a 2 ½ week period of time, and that was an amazing story itself.
Sid: What happened to the tumor the size of a cantaloupe?
Jim: Completely gone.
Sid: How long did that take?
Jim: It was instant; I mean it was all in that 2 week period of time.
Sid: Hm. Tell me about the man that had back problems; disc problems and started doing cartwheels.
Jim: Absolutely I was walking through the office and he’s my shipping director and I just walked in there to say hi and he couldn’t get off of his chair he was almost like completely paralyzed he could hardly walk at all; he was in severe pain and I just said “Can I pray for you?” And I prayed for him just a little short prayer and started to walk out of the office and he said “Wait a minute I’ve got a fire running through my body.” And I’ve never heard of that before and so I turned around and he said “Oh, my goodness I’m healed.” And I said “What are you talking about?” And he began to do squats and then he came on stage the next day and did a cartwheel in front of everybody that his disc problem was just completely healed.
Sid: Now something that very very few of those that are listening to us right now understand and you brought it up yesterday and you call it Hebrew idioms. What is an idioms?
Jim: An idiom is and expression that’s known in that particular culture and if you don’t understand that particular culture and that language you’re not going to know that idiom is. For instance, when the Bible talks about a good eye and a bad eye in Matthew. Well a lot of people have preached that message as looking, or pornography or you know looking from the eye. But that’s not what it meant in the first century. A good eye was somebody that was very generous; a bad eye was somebody that was not generous that was stingy. And that’s why the context there says that you can’t serve both God and mammon; because the whole context is about money. And so understanding those Hebrew idioms are critical to really pulling the real meaning to the scripture.
Sid: Well I imagine a lot of people have their theology off because if they look at it literal and just as a matter of speech of that day they’d have no way of knowing unless someone had told them they’d get their whole paradigms wrong.
Jim: Oh, no doubt about it; just think of all the different ways that we speak to one another today that if you could parcel out and put it 2000 years from now people would think they were crazy if we told each other “I would die for that.” Well we didn’t really mean that we would die for that it’s an expression. And unless you understand what it means in that culture you’re going to take it literally and misunderstand that we’ve done that. And when you do it just one time it could infect an entire doctrine. And people live their life by what they believe. So it’s critical to understand the context.
Sid: Now, I’m very excited about this series that you’re making available. It’s 4 DVD’s called “Shalom In the Home.” Briefly, what will this accomplish for someone that listens to it and views it?
Jim: First of all, this will be something that they most likely that they’ve never heard before because I’m going to show them in the scriptures not just idiomatic Hebrew idioms that are completely misunderstood in traditional Christianity. But I’m going to pull up the tabernacle itself and I’m going to show the Ark of the Covenant and I’m going to show the mercy seat. And I’m going to go back to the original Hebrew language and I’m going to show you that just the Mercy Seat and Ark of the Covenant how it’s in male and female forms in the original word language and show that the roles of husband and wife can actually be shown from the Ark of the Covenant itself from the original language and the Mercy Seat and even what’s found in the Ark of the Covenant actually dictates the role of the husband. It’s amazing and that’s just within marriage but there are so many other things that we pull up through the scriptures from the original language that show these amazing ancient keys to success. And when we do what the Bible says to do from its original perspective oh, my goodness it really is a formula it’s A + B = C.
Sid: Now do you believe that we know as a fact Jewish people are under unusual favor of God; the highest percentage by religion of Nobel Prize winners, people that are the leaders in art, entertainment, science, law, business, doctors, lawyers… I mean all these people these Jewish people such high percentage I happen to believe it’s because unbeknownst to many of them they’re following these ancient relationship formula’s from the scriptures.
Jim: There’s no doubt about it one of the best stories I love to tell the friend of mine has a Jewish CPA and he walks into his Jewish CPA’s office one day to get his tax return done and he asked this CPA “You know I got a question for you. You do both Christian people and Jewish people tax return right?” And he said, “Absolutely.” And he said “Who makes more money, Jewish people or Christians?” And the CPA laughed and said “Jewish people of course, 10 to 1.” And he said “Why do you think that is; why are the Jewish people so successful?” And he picked up a Bible the CPA did this, this Jewish CPA picked up a Bible on his desk, piled it up to his friend of mine and said “Well you guys all read the back of the book but all the financial principles are in the front of the book which you don’t read or study.” (Laughing) That really illustrates the point that we’re making here that you got to understand these principles that are so ancient that the disciples knew by heart.
Sid: You tell me that people that go through your 4 DVD’s and the study guide and the 8 ½ by 11 inch quick reference guide “That Ancient Keys” and start beginning to understand the Ancient Hebrew Alphabet and all the secret codes in that, that it brings blessing, favor and success to every relationship in their live. From parents with children, to schoolmates to business, associates to relatives. Give me one quick example of someone that took this series and what happened to them.
Jim: I could give so many; actually there’s one even from your own ministry where his marriage was saved and his relationship was saved. But one of the most incredible ones was that there was a couple from Boston who was on the brink of divorce they were separated; they’d been separated for a year; they were both Christians; they tried everything they could find in Christian circles to make this work; they just couldn’t make it work. Someone gave them a link to one of my teachings on our YouTube channel and they watched it and the next thing you know that they watched the “Shalom in the Home” series. He realized like a mechanic looking under the hood what was wrong with his engine; he fixed what was wrong with his engine; he was completely the way he was felling something and he was reacting to something. Came back to his wife and they’re completely restored; beyond restoration they were so impacted and their lives were so changed by this; they sold their house and moved here to tell us about this testimony to become a part of this congregation. That’s the impact this thing had on their lives.
Sid: Jim, I believe that there are people listening to us these are so supernatural I don’t hear them taught anywhere but they’re all from the Bible. These ancient keys to resolve any conflict in any relationship and walk under the supernatural way of doing it’s not natural and then the ancient Alphabet secret code you found.
Sid: My guest Dr. Cindy Trimm and we’re talking about “The Soul Fast Kit.” And fasting is not of food; what is the fasting aspect Dr. Trimm?
Cindy: It is removing the things in our lives that prevent us from hearing God; living life on purpose and for being able to fulfill our assignment in this earth realm as His earthly representative.
Sid: Now you teach on the power of words; how important are words?
Cindy: Words are so important when I read the scriptures out of the book of Numbers how the children of Israel ended up 40 years wandering around the wilderness I thought that God arbitrarily just said “Okay you’ve been naughty and I’m going to send you in the wilderness for 40 years.” But there was a direct correlation because God said “For each day that you mumbled and grumbled and complained and released negativity out of your mouth you will have to wander around in the wilderness for a year. And so for me it was almost like God was saying that for every day that you speak negatively and grumble and complain you potentially are creating the consequences of wandering around in the wilderness for an entire year. That’s a year for every day that we grumble and complain; so there is a direct correlation between what happens in our lives and what comes out of our mouths. Even scripture supports that. The Bible said that “By faith we understand the worlds were framed by the word of God.” When you look at a picture; frame a picture you can either add value to that picture, or you could devalue the picture by the framing. And our words that we are speaking are either adding value to our lives or it’s devaluing our lives. Someone once said that words are containers and I said that words are so very powerful that the words that we speak are exactly like Jesus said “They are spirit and they are life.” Scripture says “Thou shall decree a thing and it shall be established. Life and death is in the power of the tongue any that loves it shall eat the fruit thereof.” Words that we speak even though we don’t see it they don’t disappear; they don’t dissipate; words have power, presence, prophetic implications and no time or space or geographical limitations. And how do we know that; because people are still rehearsing some hurtful words that was said to them by people that they don’t even interact with nowadays and 40 years ago someone might have said something and people still feel the impact of the words. And it was a Centurion that said to Jesus, “You don’t have to come to my house; send your word only and my servant will be healed.” Scripture says that “God sent His word and healed us.” Our words are very powerful containers and we have to be careful of what we are speaking even over our lives; over our marriages; over our communities. God is very specific, He said “First of all prayers should be prayed over our leadership, those that are in authority and whether we like the party or not whether we like it or whether the president is Republican or Democratic watch what you are saying over your leaders. Scriptures says even over your enemies you should bless them and curse not. Why? Because in order to curse someone that curse has to flow through you first; it flows through your mouth first. And so we have to be careful what is coming out of our mouths because I really believe that there is a correlation between what’s happening in our future and what we speak about in our presence. And many things that are happening to us I think are self-fulfilled prophecy.
Sid: But you know a lot of people understand to a degree what you’re teaching right now, but they just can’t stop themselves from talking this negativity. How do they stop?
Cindy: They can stop by using the word of God; the Bible calls it the profession of our faith or the confession of our faith. We need to begin to make faith confessions and the way that we do that is very simple; God said to Joshua in Joshua chapter 1 verses 8 to 9 and it had a lot to do with his success and his prosperity. He said “This book of the law shall not pass from out of your mouth; you shall meditate on it day and night. Meditation if internal dialog and confession is external; what you say out of your mouth. So what you think is just as important as what you speak because what you think affects your speech. And so God says “Mediate on His word day and night for you will make your way prosperous and you will have good success.” And so our success and prosperity is in direct correlation of what we think and what we speak, “As a man thinketh in his heart so is he.” So we have to watch our words so that we can change our lives. Could things be the way they are because we are the way we are, and what one thing we can change that can change everything. We could change the way that we think about our lives and speak about our lives; and if we do so we can change the way we live our lives.
Sid: Dr. Trimm I believe that if you pray for people right now with just this little teaching they’ve had they’ll stop this negativity. Because it’s really it’s out of control soul not submitting to the word of God.
Cindy: Yes, yes and I’d love the pray. Our Father we give you praise and we asked that You would give us the ability to understand how important our words are and the discipline to begin to study to show ourselves approved unto You; workman that needed not to be ashamed rightly dividing the word of God. I pray Father that through the power of the Holy Spirit You would give us the ability to harness our thoughts and bring those thoughts into the proper alignment with the word. And where we are just capriciously using words without an understanding of the ramifications of that word give us the prompting on a day to day basis. Father allow us to understand how important our words are. And to really love Your word and love Your law and give us the discipline to desire it on a day to day basis. Let us discipline our lives like we eat the natural food on a day to day basis 3 meals a day; let us study Your word on a daily basis so that Father we will be transformed inside out. That it will be transferred at the level of our thoughts and then the level of our words and then it will be walked out in our day to day living. We would see our words being impacted by what we say to others and how we treat others. Bless us indeed and bless us with the discipline in this season in Jesus Name, Amen.
Sid: Amen, now you talk about something that I don’t hear much about; you talk about the power of doing, explain.
Cindy: Right, the Bible says “Faith without works is dead.” And there’s one thing to read the scripture and believe the scripture but it’s another thing to apply it. And once we are able to see the word of God has relevance in our day to day living; from everything from making decisions concerning businesses to being able to select the right relationships; who we marry, where we go, how we spend our money. The Bible has a solution to every kind of problem, every kind of situation; in fact the book of Proverbs speaks about wisdom. Wisdom goes beyond just information; wisdom takes information and applies it to our everyday situation. If we would but take the time to read the word of God and make it a part of our daily life just like no one would think about getting up and going back and forth from work without taking a shower. We would not think about getting up in the morning and not spending time and having our personal devotion to allow the Holy Spirit to speak to us through the word of God so that He can give us the power and the riches and the wisdom and the might to be able to live a blessed life.
Sid: Cindy, give me an example in your life of how God’s spoken to you through the word.
Cindy: I believe that as we go through the scripture one of the things we can look at is how practical the word of God is. And even out of the book of Proverbs it’s easy to do that. Proverbs is 31 chapters and there is approximately 30 to 31 days in the month. And what I do is I read a Proverbs a day and what I found out is that Proverb for that day in that particular month always gives me solutions to a particular problem or insight as to what I need to do for that day.
Sid: Well Solomon allegedly the smartest man who ever lived so I think it pays to listen to a chapter a day of Proverbs…
SID: So LaDonna is literally starving to death. Her colon, it’s dead for all practical purposes, nine surgeries in 90 days, the 10th coming up to remove her colon. She’ll never be the same. And it’s such a battle that she’s going through, and she’s wearing out. But she just happens to see the television show she did, It’s Supernatural. Her faith starts soaring. She’s praying for other people, but it still is quite a battle. And at one of her worst moments, 11:30 p.m., and she’s had about all she can handle, 11:30 p.m., she gets a phone call. Why did you even answer at 11:30 p.m.?
LADONNA: That’s a very good question. I thought about not answering. I didn’t recognize the number. But when I said, “Hello”, I heard the voice of my pastor. He identified himself, “This is John Kilpatrick.” And this is what he said, “God told me to call you and to tell you you’re coming out of that bed.” And he said, “Today, you hit breakthrough.” I’m telling you that are watching me and you hear today anybody within the sound of your voice, today you hit breakthrough. He also said, “You may not know it and you may not feel it, but you’re healed. Things are going to be different now. It’s your time. You’re going to fully recover. Now go to sleep and when you open your eyes tomorrow it’s going to be a new day.”
SID: You know, the question I have is, I agree. I agree. How would you like a word like that and you’re starving to death. You’re ready for your last surgery, they’re going to remove your whole colon, your life is never going to be the same. And she gets this call. But the question I have for you, LaDonna, how did he call you at 11:30 p.m.? What kind of pastor is he?
LADONNA: You know, I know Pastor Kilpatrick and he will obey God. And I know why. Because he heard God’s voice.
SID: That’s all you need.
LADONNA: That’s right.
SID: All you need is a word from God. She had a word from God. So what happened after the word?
LADONNA: In five hours, well he said, “Close your eyes and when you open your eyes tomorrow will be a new day.” My stomach that was distended was down two-thirds the next morning. I knew what he meant when he said, “When you open your eyes it will be a new day,” because every day X-ray opened my eyes. The X-ray technicians would come in and they’d roll the machine in, and take a picture of right in my abdomen and it’s different. I looked down and when my opened my eyes, and my stomach was down two-thirds. I knew the picture was going to be different. In four days, the doctor said, go home.
SID: Go home. Did you hear that? This is, look at the hand of God. God moved you desperately. So when you left the hospital you picked up your violin for the first time maybe since the TV show, the last TV show. And what was the first song you played?
LADONNA: The theme throughout my suffering was, Jesus doesn’t love you like you thought he did. So I got my violin and I said, listen to this one, devil. And I played, “Jesus Loves Me”.
SID: Well I tell you what, LaDonna, I’m going to release you to go to the music set. But tell me the truth, between you and me.
SID: Does Jesus really love you?
LADONNA: How he loves me. But he loves you and he loves everyone listening to us. He loves us. There is someone listening to us right now and they doubted that. But the Lord is touching your heart. And even more, he’s going to get in these notes and he’s going to really reveal himself to them.
SID: I can’t wait. Would you go to the music set. And I’m going to tell you something. When LaDonna plays this, I can just picture that. Can you picture the first time she played this after coming off the deathbed, starving to death? I’m going to tell you, Jesus really loves you. You’ll feel it as she plays this now.
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Sid: Now one of the things that is so frequently mentioned to me is that “I have dreams, lots of them, but I got to the point that they’re all symbolic and I don’t know what they mean and I don’t want to guess.” And then we have other people saying “I’m not just sure if I’m hearing God’s voice or not” or “I don’t hear God’s voice.” So I’ve really been looking forward to interviewing Laura Harris Smith. And Laura I love the title of your book “Seeing the Voice of God.” You kind of do a double take on that.
Sid: How in the world did you get into helping believers understand their dreams, hear the voice of God; how did that happen?
Laura: Hmm, well I oh I guess it was about 20 years ago I was freshly baptized in the Holy Spirit and I was going through a season in life, but I think it’s common to most people that you’re not hearing the voice of the Lord or you think that you’re not and you know you’re in a spiritual like a hearing drought of sorts. So basically my husband had stepped out of a very lucrative job to move into ministry and we had 5 children at the time and we needed a word from God on where we were going to go from there. We thought we knew we had tried that out nothing was succeeding and we doubted ourselves and Him and everything else. So you know I began to notice on bookstore shelves all these books entitled “When God is Silent” and “What to Do When God is Silent,” and it just grieved me. I thought “How can God have a mute button? How could He really withhold communication with His children?” And so I got on my knees that night Sid and I just said “Lord, I have to have a word from You; You must speak to me.” And I finally heard something and it was the oddest phrase; it was 5 days; days and instantly He downloaded this plan into me to get away for 5 days and read the Bible in 5 days. My father had a prayer cabin; he opened his doors for me to just come down there; my husband graciously took care of the 5 kids and I read through the Bible. Not to study Greek or Hebrew, or chew on anything but just to answer the question; “Is God ever silent?” And Sid, I never found one verse saying that He’s silent; I found plenty of verses like “If I regard iniquity in my heart He will not hear me.” But none that God wanted to be silent. And so what that made me do was set me on a quest to discover why we sometimes can’t hear Him if He’s always talking. The first thing that happened was I noticed he began to bypass my ears and go straight for my eyes. I started having dreams and visions and really seeing the voice of God.
Sid: You know what’s kind of interesting; I recently interviewed Randy Clark and he operates on what is called in the Bible “Words of knowledge.” But he went out to Africa and the Christians there explained they got most of their information through their dreams. And it’s like he never even thought about it. And now I’m reading your materials and you make a statement that just knocks you out so to speak. You spend a third of your life sleeping; now if you spend a third of your life sleeping look at a waste if you’re not communicating with God.
Laura: I know, I know it’s so true and people who say “Oh, I never dream” that’s why I wanted to include the two medical chapters, chapters 4 and 5 where I interviewed a sleep study doctor and I sighted all type so of studies on sleep and dream cycles. So yes you are having between 4 to 6 ream dream cycles each night; rapid eye movement cycles. And each one of those 4 to 6 cycles you’re having 4 to 6 dreams. So you’re having somewhere between 16 and 36 dreams every single night. So yes, if you spend a third of your life in bed then by age 75 you’ve slept for 25 years. You know that comes out to almost a million dreams. So the question isn’t “Why am I not dreaming?” the question is “Why am I not remembering my dreams?” And that’s why chapter 5 is called “Dream recall” and it’s why I go into all of the vitamins and minerals. And I interviewed or sighted studies from real experts that can give us insight into how we can remember our dreams; there’s a way to do it. (Laughing)
Sid: Now let me ask you a personal question.
Sid: When I have dreams I do remember them the minute I have them but if I don’t write it down I’m going to forget it, and if I write it down it’s too much energy and I I’m afraid I won’t be able to go back to sleep. Do you have any help for me?
Laura: Ah that’s good. Yes, actually I quote Sigmund Fraud in the book which could be controversial. You know he was Jewish by birth and atheist by choice; I can’t imagine having those roots and coming to that decision point in my life. But we did agree on one thing and that is “If you do not journal or somehow process the dream immediately after you receive it it will eventually be added to, embellished, and changed entirely. James Gall who wrote the forward for my book has this expression “Stewarding revelation.” I swipe that all the time and say “You must steward revelation well; if you do not you’re likely to lose it. I would suggest for you to keep a little voice recorder by the bed or maybe there’s one on your phone and I also have found that if I just keep a pen and pad by the bed if I just lean over in the dark and I just scribble 4 or 5 of the symbols the dream comes back to me the next morning.
Sid: That sounds good because then I’ll remember the dream but I don’t remember the intricate details that I would have if I had written it down.
Laura: Sounds like you have what a lot of people want really detailed dreams. (Laughing)
Sid: I do (Laughing). Okay, so tell me… that’s a pretty interesting thing I’ve been reading statistics about how many people are having insomnia, either not being able to fall asleep, or wake up frequently during the night. Also people that say “I don’t dream.” Have people followed the vitamins and the regimen you suggest and have been able to sleep better and remember their dreams?
Laura: Yes, I’m so happy to say yes. And the examples that I site in the book are not from just silly college USA. They are studies from places like John Hopkins University, and Mayo Clinic. And I really wanted to in addition to that though have some personal examples. So I used myself as a guinea pig and found the research to be true. And yes, I am finally starting to hear testimonies even reading some of the reviews on line of people who’ve tried specific regimens and are remember their dreams. And so I’m wiping my brow and saying “Thank you Lord it truly is… it’s a fact if we take care our bodies, if we use the things that God created on day 3 of creation because I also go into the essential oils and herbal teas you can take and that type of thing then we’ll be our healthiest and we’ll sleep our best.
Sid: I have to believe that you’re conclusion is correct because that’s my conclusion from the Bible and that is God’s great desire is to communicate with us. What would you say is the major reason that people have discounted their dreams and say “I never hear from God?”
Laura: (Laughing) Well, you know Job 33 starting in verse 14 says “God may speak in one way or in another yet man does not perceive it in a dream, in a vision of the night when deep sleep falls upon men; when slumbering on their beds then He opens the ears of men and seals their instruction.” But those words right there in the middle; “Man does not perceive it.” Those are the saddest verses, amongst the saddest in the entire Bible to me to think that God is trying to talk to you. Or back up a minute; you’re begging God to talk to you… He talks to you and then you can’t take yes for an answer. (Laughing) It’s like He’s trying to communicate to you and I want to add emphatically right here that dreams and visions are not a gift of the Spirit; they’re not a badge of maturity or arrival they’re mere communication with God. And communication with God is the birth-rite of every believer.
Sid: Well, I have to believe where we are in history because I had a dream in which I was told 3 times “Jesus is returning soon.” So if there’s ever been a time to hear God it has to be now.
Laura: Hmm, hmm absolutely and you know our ears get clogged for so many different reasons and I do go into those in the book. I actually start out I think it’s chapter 8 by saying “I’d be a bad friend if I spent…” I say something like “We spend about 40,000 words thus far discussing your eyes and that’s about 20,000 per eye and I’d be a bad friend though if I didn’t discuss your hearing, your spiritual hearing and why you’re not hearing God.” So it is definitely a relevant topic; I told you in the very beginning story that when I needed to hear God I got away and solved that question in my mind about how He’s never silent. Then He began giving me dreams and visions but look at what else happened to me and it’s common to many people because we just read it in Job 33. He says “He speaks in through those visions” and then it says “Then He opens the ears of men.” So see sometimes and this is what happened to me I started having all of the dreams and visions and then my daytime ears got opened too. So He speaks through dreams and visions if we’ll perceive that it not only helps us to receive communication from him when we’re sleeping, but then as we’re awake our ears have become opened too. It’s just win, win I…
Sid: But you know what I believe, I believe that you have…when someone has a victory in some area in the spirit then they can pray for other people. And you have prayed so many impartations over the 3 CD set we call “Twenty, Twenty Hearing” and then your book “Seeing the Voice of God.” And the DVD “Ten of the Most Frequently Asked Questions on Dreams and Visions.” And as far as I’m concerned when someone finishes this entire series and starts asking God for dreams and starts following. I mean you even have a dream dictionary of 1000 symbols. Oh, we’re out of time…