Sid: On yesterday’s broadcast I was interviewing Matt Sorger and he said that a highlight in his life occurred just before Oral Roberts went on to be with the Lord Oral prayed over him and said the secret to his success is not his faith although faith is important, it was his faith activated by love. And Oral laid hands on him and said that he prays for this compassion before he speaks and I’ve been convinced of this from my own study of the scripture that if we can walk in the Lord’s compassion all things are possible. Matt, you were in India in a Leper colony, now most people would be afraid to even walk in there; not only did you walk in but you had a whole team of people. How could you do that?
Matt: Well, you know I know that they told me that leprosy is highly contagious and when you go in and you see a leper colony and you see these folks and I mean it’s not a pretty sight; you know their hands are gone, pieces of their face are gone; there’s open sores, there’s wounds.
Sid: But wait a second, weren’t you afraid when you and team members hugged these people knowing how contagious it was?
Matt: You know there was no fear in our hearts and I’ll tell you why, because there is something when you’re moved with the heart of God, it was twofold for me. Number one my faith says that I’m covered by the blood of Jesus and I really have a revelation of this because I remember hearing a story of a woman and it was my Mom, because she had come out of some New Age background. And when she got saved she ran into one of her friends again who used to read auras and see energy fields around people and as this woman looked at my Mom she said, “Oh what happened to you?” What’s wrong with you I can’t see you any more, all I see is that you look red and you look fuzzy? What happened to you? And basically what that demonic power through her was seeing was the blood of Jesus covering her; she was covered from head to toe under the red blood of Jesus Christ. So I know the reality in the spirit realm as a believer that we are covered and marked under the blood of Jesus. So before sickness or leprosy or anything can touch us; before it can touch our skin it has to first touch the blood of Jesus. And when it touches the blood of Jesus it dies, it can’t stay so when you’re operating with faith and trust in the Lord you don’t have to worry about that stuff.
Sid: Now, I’m told very few people went to that leper colony and I imagine what an impact when you and the team members hugged these lepers; they probably hadn’t been hugged in years.
Matt: Some of them probably never. Some of our ladies in our team got down in the dirt and literally sat in the dirt and wrapped their arms around these woman; these leper woman, these leprous women and tears; you could see the tears streaming down their eyes, the lepers because some of them had never been touched like that, never been held, never been loved. And as we prayed over them and just loved them and hugged them, you know and then we did the outreach and we went home. I got a phone call two weeks after that from one of the Indian pastors and he was weeping on the other end of the phone. He said, “Matt, I need to tell you we went back to that leper colony and when we went back the lepers told me that when that white man came when he put his hands on us we felt something in our bodies and the leprosy has been healed and the leprosy is stopped.” And he was weeping with the testimonies of these lepers being healed by the love and power of God.
Sid: Just briefly tell me the essence of the four CD series we’re making available “How to Pull Your Future into Your Now.”
Matt: Yeah, you know I think a lot of people settle down with an existence or they settle for things in their life because they think God has you know relegated a certain blessing for a future time in their life. Whether it’s a Devine healing or an open door or a fulfillment of destiny or purpose and they just they relegate it to God’s sovereignty and they say, “Well whenever God want it to happen it’ll just happen and I’m just going to sit here and wait forever.” And then they ended up waiting and waiting forever, but the Lord has shown me a secret of how to access every promise of God whether healing, deliverance, breakthrough, favor, open doors, fulfillment of destiny, fulfillment of a call how to access that promise. Even if it is relegated for future time and how to access it and pull it into your now moment.
Sid: But wait a second, if it’s relegated for the future how can you pull it into the now?
Matt: Ha-ha, well the Lord showed me in the Bible, because everything that we teach has to be based in the Word of God and you know we see this happen in the Bible where Mary and Jesus and the disciples they are at the wedding of Canaan. And they show up at this wedding and the guys come out and their like “Oh you know there’s no more wine left.” And Mary turns to Jesus and says “Jesus they have no more wine.” And Jesus is like, well he is probably the only person that can get away with this, he calls his mother woman. Woman, I don’t know how he said it maybe he said it very nicely “Woman, dear woman, you know, what does this have to do with me?” In other words, he was saying to Mary, his mother, Mary, it’s not my time to do a miracle yet. It is not my appointed time to do a public miracle; in other words it was not God’s timing yet. She totally ignored him and said to the people, “Do whatever he tells you to do.” And because Mary had vision to see what was in Jesus, she could see something that other people couldn’t. Because she could have vision or see the potential Divinity that was in Jesus, that was faith in her heart, vision produces faith, which produces an action and she stepped out and she said, “Do whatever Jesus tells you to do.” And she actually launched Jesus’ miracle ministry. Her faith and vision shifted the season of Jesus’ life and launched him into his public miracle, signs and wonders ministry, but she she pulled something that was for a future delegated time. Because even Jesus said, my time is not come. But because of her faith she was able to pull something from a future moment into that now moment where they were and release the miracle.
Sid: Have you found that happening in your life and the life of those that you teach this to?
Matt: Yes, because you know, and again I believe there are lots of people they settle for something less than God’s perfect will for them. Some people settle down in sickness and they have a mindset that keeps them sick. They say, “Well, when God wants to heal me, if He ever wants to heal me, then I’ll be healed during that time.” And they settle down and they stay in their sickness. But we tell people, Jesus He accomplished all of it already and if you can just see with eyes of faith and we pray for faith, because God is the source of our faith. He is the one that gives us the faith that we need so when we point people to the source, there’s a faith there’s a tangible gift of faith a Spirit of Faith that gets imparted into people. They begin to see what God’s will is for them now.
Sid: Matt, give me a real live example of someone that pulled their future into their now.
Matt: Yeah, I know of a story of a woman Sid, where she was bound in a wheelchair and she was going to a series of healing meetings and as she was attending each night you know she’s be brought in and they wheel her out still sick at the end of each night. And several days were going by and her focus was in the wrong place, when she was coming into that meeting she met the minister out in the foyer and she looked at him and she said, “Please you know, heal me” and her focus was on the man and she kept leaving those services still sick, still bound in her place of life. But then the last night it was the fifth night, she was wheeled in to that service and her husband carried her body up to the altar and laid her body at the altar. During that time she decided, “You know what, I’m not going to look to man, I’m not going to look to anything I’m just going to worship God.” As she worshipped God all of a sudden she could feel the presence of the Lord washing over her in waves and God gave her a vision. In the vision she sees Jesus standing there down a long road and she sees Jesus standing there smiling and waving at her. And all of a sudden as she catches the glimpse of Jesus she sees His heart; she sees His love; she sees His joy, she sees His desire to heal her all of a sudden the healing power of God flows through her body and she stands up totally completely 100% healed and walks out of that service totally healed out of her wheelchair. But the key for this was she had been bound by sickness waiting for something to happen, but the moment she forgot about everything else; the moment she got her eyes off man; the moment she got her eyes off herself she got her eyes on to Jesus in a place of worship; vision was imparted to her from God Himself. As a result of that vision, faith was imparted to her heart; faith then launched her into place of being able to receive what God had for her life. Something that could have been way in the future for her, but she accessed it in that moment as a result of vision that released faith that causes miracles to go into operation.