SID: Hello. Sid Roth here with Dr. Gary Whetstone. And we found out that he had an amazing journey to know the Messiah. So he gets married and everything is fine. But you see, he had an encounter. He knew that God was real, but he was not discipled. And at a party one day, he takes one joint and all that craziness comes back to him.
GARY: That’s right.
SID: And your wife couldn’t handle it. And so she’s going to divorce him. And at the day of the divorce, what did you say to the judge?
GARY: I’m standing before the judge and he says, “Do you have anything to say about your divorce?” I said, “Yes.” He says, “Raise your right hand and put your hand on the Bible.” I said, “No, I want to read it.” He said, “We don’t do that in this courtroom.” I said, “No, I’m going to read it.” Because the Bible says in First Corinthians, Chapter 7, “If she departs let her remained unmarried or be reconciled to her husband.” And I said, “I want it on the court record today. I’m only going to commit her to be remarried to me.”
SID: Well I wonder what that judge thought of that. And then, worse than that, after the divorce is granted, he asks, talk about chutzpah, that’s a Hebrew word meaning nerve, he asks his wife for a date after the divorce. So he prays and he fasts, and he gets discipled. And your wife must have been very fearful of going back to you as crazy as you were.
GARY: Sid, she had such tremendous fear. As a matter of fact, she knew that if she came back to me she had to trust God completely to restore everything in her life in her fellowship with God and me. That God would take us on a new journey, that our marriage would not be for ourselves, that it would be for the Kingdom of God, for the person or Christ. And the people that had been gripped by fear by tragedy and trauma in life, we would give our lives to see their lives delivered. But God gave her grace to come through that. As I fasted and prayed, I saw a miracle of God. She became born again, spirit-filled. When she trusted to remarry me, it was like stepping over a cliff. She said the fear was overwhelming and God gave me answers to fear and conquering it in people’s lives, whether it was tragedy, trauma, torment, confusion. It doesn’t matter where it came from, from natural stimulus in life, from prognosis from a doctor, somebody saying you’re insane. I mean, here I am pastoring a church two and half miles from the mental hospital that I was in. I haven’t gone very far in life, just down the way.
SID: But you know what interests me the most? Is this mandate you received. You were at a meeting. You got some 2000 prayer requests
GARY: Yes.
SID: And you found a common theme in these prayer requests.
GARY: I’m holding a meeting in Earl’s Court, which is a huge coliseum in London, on prayer. And I asked our church, and I get 2000 prayer requests I take with me. And as I’m studying these, I see that 70 percent of all the causes are rooted in fear of what people needed prayer for. And I began step by step, the Spirit of God began to lead me, Sid. I saw how fear had crippled, demeaned people. I watched the reality of it in these prayer requests. That whole week of prayer that I led in Earl’s Court was a breakthrough of prayer of breaking fear, tormenting confusion that had been over people’s minds.
SID: You studied every scripture on fear
GARY: Every one
SID: But tell me something. Was this just a good important thing to do? How much was God a part of it?
GARY: No. Sid, God gave me a mandate to go step-by-step, seek every person’s life that encountered fear. Gideon was a man of great fear that God called him a great man of valor. And it was the fear of being the poorest from the House of Manasseh It was the fear of how could God do the miracles when I’ve never seen it. And yet the fear of stepping over to the supernatural real, God gave me insight and access on how to deliver people from that fear to access the supernatural power of God.
SID: Give me that acronym that God gave you about fear.
GARY: F-False, E-Evidence, A-Appearing, R-Real
SID: Say it in a sentence.
GARY: False evidence appearing real.
SID: That is so simple and yet so profound. What does that mean to you?
GARY: That means to me that people trust in the natural world, it speaks to them one event, but God has an entire other event planned as long as that fear does not dictate to them. Sometimes it’s a doctor’s diagnosis. Sometimes it’s a prognosis of situation that they can’t see any other way out. It can be a bill they deal with. It can be a financial catastrophe about to occur. And the fear, it could be some failure they’ve had in your past that they feel they might be going back to that’s speaking to them, and God has given us clear and decisive instruction on how to set them free from every cause.
SID: Now you told me over the last 10 years you have not had fear. You really mean that.
GARY: Sid, I have not had fear.
SID: Aren’t you afraid of sickness? Aren’t you afraid of death?
GARY: You know, I was in Nigeria about two and a half years ago, coming up a hill, and I stopped breathing. I couldn’t breathe any more. So I flew back home. And the doctor comes, he’s a pulmonologist, and he says, “Gary, you have lung cancer. You have three months to live at best.” My wife is on a trip overseas as well for several months, so I can’t tell anybody. And I said to the doctor, I said, “That’s not true.” He said, “What do you mean it’s not true?” He said, “I’ve been a practicing pulmonologist for 20-some years.” I said, “It is not true.” I saw my death and I do not die from lung cancer.
SID: He had a vision of how he was going to die. But you don’t need a vision. All you need is the Word of God.
GARY: That’s right.
SID: God says you shall live and not die.
GARY: That’s right.
SID: Proclaim the works of the Lord. That’s for you. I’ll tell you what, when I come back I want Gary to tell me, now how many tumors did you have inside of you?
GARY: Eighty.
SID: Did you hear that? Eighty tumors. He’s in a foreign country. He has three months to live. Oy vey. We’ll be right back.
Tags: It's Supernatural, Sid Roth
Tags: It's Supernatural, Sid Roth